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2018-11-06 21:10:08 UTC
The real backstory on circumcision would have to clarify what the King James Bible stories failed to provide in Genesis. Only shreds of the truth remain in the revered texts, as in 6:2 where the sons of God see the daughters of men as fair - that is remnant for the seduction of Jared, where demons tried to reunite the people of Cain with descendants of Seth, copulating with their women to suggest Jared do the same. The result was a race of cannibalistic giants who consumed children and infants (Cain's people engaged in heterosexual incest, causing a breakdown of familial relationships); angels became frustrated God did nothing, finally their appeals were answered by a broad edict - the Deluge would occur (with Noah to be informed), but the giants would kill each other first, and the demons involved would face apocalyptic judgment. Those demons will face punishment when humans worthy of their stations emerge, the meaning of Revelations 14:4 about not being "defiled with women," the redeemed will be at a higher spiritual level without having the stigma of that particular crime. So the Bible is unreliable, even confusing between Cain and Abel which was the farmer versus the shepherd - it was compiled for brevity under a deadline, to eliminate the profusion of complete stories in the oral tradition, and accuracy was not a priority.
Those expurgated stories have the devil's true hideous form described as he vows to never cease misleading humanity "not for one day, not for one hour," with the ability to assume any form, even an angel or deity. The deception was so great it was found only visions could be trusted, not apparitions. Adam was informed the angels from Eden would return (as Magi) in 5500 years (five and a half days to God) for the Nativity of God incarnate, whose blood would be shed upon his own skull for redemption: thus Golgotha, meaning "Place of the Skull," where Jesus Christ was crucified, was not merely suggesting a place of execution, but was the shrine for Adam's skull, carried on the Ark and taken by Sem, destined to be planted at that precise spot. The chronology of 5500 years from Adam to Jesus is agreed upon by various sources.
Correcting with full texts, Henoch was the patriarch born after Adam's death (potential reincarnation), taken into heaven ultimately but having a dream of the entire history of humanity from his own era of long life (cows) into the post-Deluge Hebrew era (sheep), then the arrival of the Lord and the fate of his seventy disciples (Christ's secret commission), ultimately suggesting an Aquarian movement with birds as the Lord returns to cleft the world asunder and cast the guilty into the fiery chasm (the guilty include the blind sheep failing to open their eyes). Henoch saw the first murder, Cain killing Abel, as a black heifer subduing a red heifer: the sacrifice of the red heifer would be the primary Hebrew offering, without mention of the obvious symbology honoring Cain's crime by proxy emulation. Henoch's texts accurately predicted events involving Moses and Elijah, the three sons of Constantine, the dispersion into sects resulting from Luther's Reformation, and even the recent Nazi Holocaust: the theme is that each successive generation becomes more perverse and destructive.
Comparing the recorded words of the entity engaging Abram with the satanic temptations offered to Christ has both with the dangling carrot of something desirable: Abram would have descendants as numerous as the sand of the sea, Christ would be Master over all the kingdoms set before him - but there was a prohibitive price. Jesus knew not to transform stones into bread for the devil's confirmation, but Abram took the bait and allowed the malevolent entity to become his god for the promise of the land of Chanaan (named for the fourth son of Cham, specifically cursed by Noah since Cham castrated him to never have a fourth son, since Noah's three sons split everything in thirds). Notice this entity had no problem with slavery, insisting Abram's slaves also be circumcised regardless of their opinion. The Law would later say a slave could attain freedom after seven years, but not take his wife and children, and if deciding to stay he would be publicly marked and subsequently owned forever. (These are the sorts of things people who never read the Bible do not know they are revering by calling it "Holy"). Abram sealed his pact with this entity to last Five Ages, through the sacrifice of five symbolic species. A renowned holy man visited Abram, with two fellows called angels, relating awareness of his pact, and making the prediction he would be incarnated as his barren wife's child (meaning Isaac, a Messianic incarnation commencing with Abel/Seth). The two angelic men eluded gang rape in Sodom (similar to a story in Judges about a Levite man, who offered his wife instead, but was shockingly returned dead in the morning), then the holy man entered, calling divine fire down in self-sacrifice (or synchronized with a meteor event - Elijah famously had fire descend to consume a sacrifice in a contest with pagan priests). Of course the malevolent entity eventually ordered the sacrificial execution of toddler Isaac, it was a satanic ploy too brazen to be allowed, so a genuine angel was dispatched to prevent it being carried out, even if Abram was in the dark about the admonition that neither should he be doing anything else extreme to him.
We have the stories of Moses' wife being threatened by a metaphysical entity to override the merciful decision of Moses and circumcise their son on the spot or else. There is the mass circumcision event after the practice was suspended during the forty years in wilderness, attended by an angel brandishing a drawn sword. And there are the Davidic era wars, with foreskins of the enemy taken as prizes. The military goal was simply death, annihilating men, women, children, even animals.
King David's census is the precise parallel to what was done in Numbers, a count of men able to wage war, the first step in an aggressive military campaign: yet the passages where it is claimed God ordered the census are followed by the unexpected correction that it was actually the devil, and the results would have to be invalidated, giving three options for sustaining massive casualties. Yet the prophets had been reporting the true message from God was to ask who had been requesting the numerous sacrifices at their hands, which tainted them with innocent blood, and invalidated their prayers (Isaiah 1:11-15). Prophets were seldom heeded, warning that if Hebrew paganism persisted (worship of the golden calf, fertility rituals offering cakes to Astarte in groves) captivity would result. The son of Solomon perpetrated biological warfare on his subjects, choosing scorpions over whips, resulting in a civil war, with both sides falling into separate respective captivities (Persian and Babylonian).
So it is no wonder that Jesus gives necessary lip service to the Law, while His heart was fully instead with the truth from the Prophets, resisting all efforts to induce Him to endorse teachings of non-divine origin. Thus Jesus does not parrot the command to honor father and mother, but introduces the radical concept that your children will be your judges. His miracle cures on the Sabbath were defended by rectifying the real spiritual priorities, the system could not accept the blind being made to see as keeping the day holy.
And in the Gospel of Thomas we get the point-blank answer from Jesus regarding circumcision in Saying 53:
His disciples asked him:
"Is circumcision useful or not?"
He replied:
If it were useful, fathers would engender sons born circumcised from their mothers.
Rather, it is the circumcision in spirit that is truly useful.
The primary comment meant of course it is not physically advantageous, nature creates perfect anatomy and circumcision destroys that. Unfortunately, the second part of the Lord's answer affirms that the deity is indeed pleased by the idea of mentally divorcing oneself from being consumed by one's own pleasure, a sublimation of self that is not the result of physical mutilation, and thus too subtle and nuanced even for today's crowd - it parallels prophets speaking of the difficulty of talking for God with "uncircumcised lips," which was not meant to be taken literally.
There is an intriguing message in Saying 28:
Yeshua said:
I stood in the midst of the world
and revealed myself to them in the flesh.
I found them all intoxicated.
Not one of them was thirsty
and my soul grieved for the children of humanity,
for they are blind in their hearts.
They do not see.
They came naked into the world,
and naked they will leave it.
At this time, they are intoxicated.
When they have vomited their wine,
they will return to themselves.
. . .
So that is my wish for all deluded souls -
Vomit your wine of sadism,
and simply return to yourselves
Those expurgated stories have the devil's true hideous form described as he vows to never cease misleading humanity "not for one day, not for one hour," with the ability to assume any form, even an angel or deity. The deception was so great it was found only visions could be trusted, not apparitions. Adam was informed the angels from Eden would return (as Magi) in 5500 years (five and a half days to God) for the Nativity of God incarnate, whose blood would be shed upon his own skull for redemption: thus Golgotha, meaning "Place of the Skull," where Jesus Christ was crucified, was not merely suggesting a place of execution, but was the shrine for Adam's skull, carried on the Ark and taken by Sem, destined to be planted at that precise spot. The chronology of 5500 years from Adam to Jesus is agreed upon by various sources.
Correcting with full texts, Henoch was the patriarch born after Adam's death (potential reincarnation), taken into heaven ultimately but having a dream of the entire history of humanity from his own era of long life (cows) into the post-Deluge Hebrew era (sheep), then the arrival of the Lord and the fate of his seventy disciples (Christ's secret commission), ultimately suggesting an Aquarian movement with birds as the Lord returns to cleft the world asunder and cast the guilty into the fiery chasm (the guilty include the blind sheep failing to open their eyes). Henoch saw the first murder, Cain killing Abel, as a black heifer subduing a red heifer: the sacrifice of the red heifer would be the primary Hebrew offering, without mention of the obvious symbology honoring Cain's crime by proxy emulation. Henoch's texts accurately predicted events involving Moses and Elijah, the three sons of Constantine, the dispersion into sects resulting from Luther's Reformation, and even the recent Nazi Holocaust: the theme is that each successive generation becomes more perverse and destructive.
Comparing the recorded words of the entity engaging Abram with the satanic temptations offered to Christ has both with the dangling carrot of something desirable: Abram would have descendants as numerous as the sand of the sea, Christ would be Master over all the kingdoms set before him - but there was a prohibitive price. Jesus knew not to transform stones into bread for the devil's confirmation, but Abram took the bait and allowed the malevolent entity to become his god for the promise of the land of Chanaan (named for the fourth son of Cham, specifically cursed by Noah since Cham castrated him to never have a fourth son, since Noah's three sons split everything in thirds). Notice this entity had no problem with slavery, insisting Abram's slaves also be circumcised regardless of their opinion. The Law would later say a slave could attain freedom after seven years, but not take his wife and children, and if deciding to stay he would be publicly marked and subsequently owned forever. (These are the sorts of things people who never read the Bible do not know they are revering by calling it "Holy"). Abram sealed his pact with this entity to last Five Ages, through the sacrifice of five symbolic species. A renowned holy man visited Abram, with two fellows called angels, relating awareness of his pact, and making the prediction he would be incarnated as his barren wife's child (meaning Isaac, a Messianic incarnation commencing with Abel/Seth). The two angelic men eluded gang rape in Sodom (similar to a story in Judges about a Levite man, who offered his wife instead, but was shockingly returned dead in the morning), then the holy man entered, calling divine fire down in self-sacrifice (or synchronized with a meteor event - Elijah famously had fire descend to consume a sacrifice in a contest with pagan priests). Of course the malevolent entity eventually ordered the sacrificial execution of toddler Isaac, it was a satanic ploy too brazen to be allowed, so a genuine angel was dispatched to prevent it being carried out, even if Abram was in the dark about the admonition that neither should he be doing anything else extreme to him.
We have the stories of Moses' wife being threatened by a metaphysical entity to override the merciful decision of Moses and circumcise their son on the spot or else. There is the mass circumcision event after the practice was suspended during the forty years in wilderness, attended by an angel brandishing a drawn sword. And there are the Davidic era wars, with foreskins of the enemy taken as prizes. The military goal was simply death, annihilating men, women, children, even animals.
King David's census is the precise parallel to what was done in Numbers, a count of men able to wage war, the first step in an aggressive military campaign: yet the passages where it is claimed God ordered the census are followed by the unexpected correction that it was actually the devil, and the results would have to be invalidated, giving three options for sustaining massive casualties. Yet the prophets had been reporting the true message from God was to ask who had been requesting the numerous sacrifices at their hands, which tainted them with innocent blood, and invalidated their prayers (Isaiah 1:11-15). Prophets were seldom heeded, warning that if Hebrew paganism persisted (worship of the golden calf, fertility rituals offering cakes to Astarte in groves) captivity would result. The son of Solomon perpetrated biological warfare on his subjects, choosing scorpions over whips, resulting in a civil war, with both sides falling into separate respective captivities (Persian and Babylonian).
So it is no wonder that Jesus gives necessary lip service to the Law, while His heart was fully instead with the truth from the Prophets, resisting all efforts to induce Him to endorse teachings of non-divine origin. Thus Jesus does not parrot the command to honor father and mother, but introduces the radical concept that your children will be your judges. His miracle cures on the Sabbath were defended by rectifying the real spiritual priorities, the system could not accept the blind being made to see as keeping the day holy.
And in the Gospel of Thomas we get the point-blank answer from Jesus regarding circumcision in Saying 53:
His disciples asked him:
"Is circumcision useful or not?"
He replied:
If it were useful, fathers would engender sons born circumcised from their mothers.
Rather, it is the circumcision in spirit that is truly useful.
The primary comment meant of course it is not physically advantageous, nature creates perfect anatomy and circumcision destroys that. Unfortunately, the second part of the Lord's answer affirms that the deity is indeed pleased by the idea of mentally divorcing oneself from being consumed by one's own pleasure, a sublimation of self that is not the result of physical mutilation, and thus too subtle and nuanced even for today's crowd - it parallels prophets speaking of the difficulty of talking for God with "uncircumcised lips," which was not meant to be taken literally.
There is an intriguing message in Saying 28:
Yeshua said:
I stood in the midst of the world
and revealed myself to them in the flesh.
I found them all intoxicated.
Not one of them was thirsty
and my soul grieved for the children of humanity,
for they are blind in their hearts.
They do not see.
They came naked into the world,
and naked they will leave it.
At this time, they are intoxicated.
When they have vomited their wine,
they will return to themselves.
. . .
So that is my wish for all deluded souls -
Vomit your wine of sadism,
and simply return to yourselves