"No Foreskin", a true story

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The zeal to find merit and medical justification in circumcision is as old as the mutilation. In cultures that do not find same, a normal man is harangued and socially shamed until he submits. A good case in recent times has been the rushed and rolled out mass circumcision of black men in Africa to stop HIV.
The studies done were done by academics who had been zealous circumcision advocates long before they go their grants to experiment with circumcisons in Africa. There has since been billions of dollars taken from US tax payers, and such foundations are Clinton and Gates.. to shame a foreskin in Africa and to circumcise entire male populations. Currently the brag number is six million and counting.

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NO FORESKIN
[A man recalls his thoughts and feelings as a child over
60 years ago when he realized that part of his penis had
been cut off. Distilled by John A. Erickson from
correspondence with a man in Texas. Published in the Fall
1986 issue (#6) of FQ (Foreskin Quarterly).]
My parents never used the word "penis" because it
wasn’t in the Bible. They used the word "foreskin"
instead. This caused me endless confusion.
When I was about seven I asked my mother why my
"foreskin" always stuck out but my older brother’s
didn’t (since the head of his penis was covered with
skin but mine was always exposed).
"Oh, don’t you remember?" she said. "The doctor
sewed your foreskin so it would stay back."
To my young mind something that was only sewed could
become unsewed. I would ask her, "When is the doctor
going to unsew my foreskin?" But she always turned my
questions off, never telling me the truth.
When I was nine a house was being built near ours.
One afternoon, when the men had quit for the day, the
man who ran the steam shovel asked me if I’d like to see
how it worked. Naturally, I was thrilled. I climbed on
and he showed me all about it. He was about 40, a smooth
talker, and somehow got onto the subject of "skin".
He asked, "Can you slip your skin all the way back?
Does it ever pull tight or hurt?"
I didn’t know how to answer him because, unlike my
father and brother, I had no skin to slip back; but I
managed to say, "The doctor sewed my foreskin so it
stays back all the time."
He said, "I’ve never seen a foreskin that was sewn
back."
Anxious to understand what had been done to me, I
said, "I’ll show you my foreskin if you’ll show me
yours." (He had no way to know I really meant "penis".)
"Sure", he said, "I’ll show you my foreskin. Let’s
see yours first."
I opened my pants and took my rough-cut little penis
out. I was watching his eyes and saw his astonishment as
he said, "I’ve never seen a foreskin sewn back like
that." Then he took out his penis, the head completely
covered with skin. "See *my* foreskin?" he asked.
I could see it all right!
He slipped the skin back slowly until the head was
exposed, and said, "I can make mine look like yours too.
See yours? See the scar all around it?"
Yes, I could see it clearly. "That’s where I was
sewed", I said.
"Son", he said gently, "you are circumcised."
"Oh no, I’m not," I said bravely. "I’m a Christian.
I’m not a Jew." (I had heard in Sunday school that
Jewish boys were circumcised and Christian boys were
baptized.)
"See the little marks going all around?" he asked.
"Yes", I said.
"That’s where you were sewed. Look here." He pulled
gently on the skin of the shaft but it was too tight to
move. "See?" he said. "There’s no loose skin like mine."
Then he slipped his foreskin back and forth over the
head of his penis and I could see *exactly* what had
been done to me. I could see that *that* part of me had been
*cut* OFF!
I panicked.
"When will my foreskin grow back???" I asked.
"Son," he said softly, "it will never grow back. You
are circumcised, and you will always be circumcised.
Nothing can ever change that. **You have no foreskin.**"
I was too stunned to speak. I burst into tears. I
didn’t want him to see me cry. I climbed down and ran
until I was out of sight. I was so enraged I couldn’t
talk. The people I had trusted had told me all those
lies about being "sewed", and I realized I would be
*cut* like that - an amputee - for the rest of my life.
I went back the next day but the steam shovel was
gone, and I never saw the man again.
I never told my mother I knew she had lied to me. I
couldn’t make myself talk about it. Several times I
worked up the courage, but when I opened my mouth to
speak, the words stuck in my throat and no sound came
out.
That was over 60 years ago, but I remember it as
clearly as if it happened yesterday - and the words,
"You have no foreskin" still resound in my head.
[John A. Erickson is an educator and human rights activist
who has, since 1981, been working to end the human rights
violation, the sexual mutilation of helpless
baby boys known euphemistically as "infant circumcision".]
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Information on the normal intact penis and its anatomy,
on the physical/mechanical functioning of the normal
intact penis during sex, on the lifelong harm and
damage from "infant circumcision" (i. e. male sexual
mutilation), on the shocking history of this brutal,
anti-human practice, and on various other aspects of the
http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ [The Circumcision Information and
Resources Pages]
http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/library/anatomy/garcia/
What exactly is circumcision and what is it not?
http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/pages/anat/
Anatomy of the Penis and Mechanics of Intercourse: an
illustrated guide
http://net.indra.com/~shredder/intact/anatomy/index.html
Anatomy of the Intact Penis
http://users.aol.com/ks21107l1/3zones.htm
The 3 Zones of Penile Skin, by John A. Erickson
Those who have awareness about the senselessness of
their circumcisions and who know about the harm done to
them from "infant circumcision" (the sexual, physical,
medical, emotional, psychological, and self-esteem forms
of harm directly stemming from this shameful,
contraindicated and nature-insulting operation inflicted in
infancy) should request a harm documentation form from
http://www.eskimo.com/%7Egburlin/noharmm/
[NOHARMM, the National Organization to Halt the Abuse
and Routine Mutilation of Males, POB 460795, San
Francisco, CA 94146; phone/FAX: [phone]]
"Fear, pain, crippling, disfigurement and humiliation
are the classic ways to break the human spirit.
Circumcision includes them all."
- a circumcised (i. e. sexually mutilated)
American man
Stan, confronting male sexual mutilation - "infant circumcision" - in
the US
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chemist/physicist, born Marja Sklodowska
in Poland; freethinker; married physicist
Pierre Curie; Nobel Prize won for
physics (1903) and for chemistry (1911);
isolated, described and named the radioactive
elements radium and polonium (named after
her native land)

[Parker]

NO FORESKIN
When I was about seven I asked my mother why my
"foreskin" always stuck out but my older brother’s
didn’t (since the head of his penis was covered with
skin but mine was always exposed).
"Oh, don’t you remember?" she said. "The doctor
sewed your foreskin so it would stay back."
To my young mind something that was only sewed could
become unsewed. I would ask her, "When is the doctor
going to unsew my foreskin?" But she always turned my
questions off, never telling me the truth.
When I was nine a house was being built near ours.
One afternoon, when the men had quit for the day, the
man who ran the steam shovel asked me if I’d like to see
how it worked. Naturally, I was thrilled. I climbed on
and he showed me all about it. He was about 40, a smooth
talker, and somehow got onto the subject of "skin".
He asked, "Can you slip your skin all the way back?
Does it ever pull tight or hurt?"
I didn’t know how to answer him because, unlike my
father and brother, I had no skin to slip back; but I
managed to say, "The doctor sewed my foreskin so it
stays back all the time."
He said, "I’ve never seen a foreskin that was sewn
back."
Anxious to understand what had been done to me, I
said, "I’ll show you my foreskin if you’ll show me
yours." (He had no way to know I really meant "penis".)
"Sure", he said, "I’ll show you my foreskin. Let’s
see yours first."
I opened my pants and took my rough-cut little penis
out. I was watching his eyes and saw his astonishment as
he said, "I’ve never seen a foreskin sewn back like
that." Then he took out his penis, the head completely
covered with skin. "See *my* foreskin?" he asked.
I could see it all right!
He slipped the skin back slowly until the head was
exposed, and said, "I can make mine look like yours too.
See yours? See the scar all around it?"
Yes, I could see it clearly. "That’s where I was
sewed", I said.
"Son", he said gently, "you are circumcised."
"Oh no, I’m not," I said bravely. "I’m a Christian.
I’m not a Jew." (I had heard in Sunday school that
Jewish boys were circumcised and Christian boys were
baptized.)
"See the little marks going all around?" he asked.
"Yes", I said.
"That’s where you were sewed. Look here." He pulled
gently on the skin of the shaft but it was too tight to
move. "See?" he said. "There’s no loose skin like mine."
Then he slipped his foreskin back and forth over the
head of his penis and I could see *exactly* what had
been done to me. I could see that *that* part of me had been
*cut* OFF!
I panicked.
"When will my foreskin grow back???" I asked.
"Son," he said softly, "it will never grow back. You
are circumcised, and you will always be circumcised.
Nothing can ever change that. **You have no foreskin.**"
I was too stunned to speak. I burst into tears. I
didn’t want him to see me cry. I climbed down and ran
until I was out of sight. I was so enraged I couldn’t
talk. The people I had trusted had told me all those
lies about being "sewed", and I realized I would be
*cut* like that - an amputee - for the rest of my life.
I went back the next day but the steam shovel was
gone, and I never saw the man again.
I never told my mother I knew she had lied to me. I
couldn’t make myself talk about it. Several times I
worked up the courage, but when I opened my mouth to
speak, the words stuck in my throat and no sound came
out.
That was over 60 years ago, but I remember it as
clearly as if it happened yesterday - and the words,
"You have no foreskin" still resound in my head.

What a bizarre and sickening story! A child gets sexually molested by a 40 year old foreskin fetishist and this is supposed to prove that uncircumcised cock is good???

Just to summarize the story, a boy has been circumcised (prob for medical reasons because his older brother hasn't so its not like the parents are automatically for circ).

When he's 9 yrs old a pervert pedo lures him on the pretext of seeing a steam shovel, after everybody else has gone home. This pedo is a foreskin fetishist. He doesn't want sucking or fucking with the child, just wants to play sicko foreskin games with him, "He somehow got onto the subject of foreskin with me" and starts asking if the child can slide his foreskin around.

Next thing you know the pedo stranger and the 9 year old are showing each other their cocks and the pedo is "slipping his foreskin back and forth" while "pulling gently" on the childs cock. The foreskin fetishist is disappointed his victim doesn't have a foreskin and makes the kid feel bad about it.

The victim is traumatized by this abuse and for the rest of his he stays neurotic about not being circed.

THAT story of child molestation is supposed to prove that circ is bad?

Jeez you foreskin nuts are really scraping the barrell for arguments!

[Uckister777]

Post by Parker
What a bizarre and sickening story! A child gets sexually molested by a 40 year old foreskin fetishist and this is supposed to prove that uncircumcised cock is good???
Just to summarize the story, a boy has been circumcised (prob for medical reasons because his older brother hasn't so its not like the parents are automatically for circ).
When he's 9 yrs old a pervert pedo lures him on the pretext of seeing a steam shovel, after everybody else has gone home. This pedo is a foreskin fetishist. He doesn't want sucking or fucking with the child, just wants to play sicko foreskin games with him, "He somehow got onto the subject of foreskin with me" and starts asking if the child can slide his foreskin around.
Next thing you know the pedo stranger and the 9 year old are showing each other their cocks and the pedo is "slipping his foreskin back and forth" while "pulling gently" on the childs cock. The foreskin fetishist is disappointed his victim doesn't have a foreskin and makes the kid feel bad about it.
The victim is traumatized by this abuse and for the rest of his he stays neurotic about not being circed.

.> THAT story of child molestation is supposed to prove that circ is bad?

Post by Parker
Jeez you foreskin nuts are really scraping the barrell for arguments!

Parker, it's even worse than that. This thread has gone on for 16 pages so far, with dozens of posts from foreskin lovers (including several from the notorious foreskin worshipper and science denier Hugh Young) and NOT ONE of them has said a word about this being a tale of sexual assault on a nine year old child by a middle aged foreskin fetishist. They are all too gleeful about the supposed result (a lifelong neurosis about being uncut) that they don't notice or care. Meanwhile, they utter pious rants about "the rights of the child" when it comes to circumcision.

It gets worse. Where did the this supposed "true story" of a pedophile playing foreskin games with a child come from? It came came from a 1986 edition of a sordid porno mag for foreskin fetishists called Foreskin Quarterly. This disgusting rag, now fortunately defunct, published vile photos and trashy foreskin fiction for fetishists to jerk off over.

It gets even worse. This "true story" of somebody's supposed recollection of an event 60 years previously did not even purport to be by the victim. It was "distilled" from information allegedly collected by the infamous foreskin obsessive John Erickson, a crackpot who celebrates "the foreskin in all its magnificent glory" by making videos of the hideous things (one 30 minutes long) and selling them to fetishists for 30 dollars a pop. According to his advertising blurb, no detail is spared (including the smegma?), and the foreskin often "fills the entire screen".

And now, about 92 years after the alleged child molestation, along comes another crank called "Nasty"who pastes this porno mag rubbish to alt.circ, in the belief that the supposed victim's neurosis proves all males should be uncut.

Sad.

[Jordan]

I found another story on this website and look how different are experiences of two circumcised boys with uncircumcised pedophile child molestors.

First story, the pedophile is a foreskin fetishist who shows his uncircumcised penis to the child, then humiliates the child because he has no foreskin, "it will never grow back. You are circumcised, and you will always be circumcised.Nothing can ever change that. **You have no foreskin.**" I was too stunned to speak. I burst into tears" The pedophile stops the sex because he is only interested in foreskins, the boy feels rejected.
For rest of his life the boy has neurosis about no foreskin.


Second story, "I had one experience when I was a boy. He was french tourist in Egypt. I had sex with boys before but never saw uncircumcised. He offered money and I was poor. We went to the rocks on the beach. It was so ugly and smelled like fish. I ran away. I did not get the money." This boy decides for himself, nobody tells him if circumcised or uncircumcised is better. He look at uncircumcised, he is disgusted, he stops the sex immediately.
For the rest of his life this boy is happy with his circumcised penis.

[Oliver]

Post by Jordan
I found another story on this website and look how different are experiences of two circumcised boys with uncircumcised pedophile child molestors.
First story, the pedophile is a foreskin fetishist who shows his uncircumcised penis to the child, then humiliates the child because he has no foreskin, "it will never grow back. You are circumcised, and you will always be circumcised.Nothing can ever change that. **You have no foreskin.**" I was too stunned to speak. I burst into tears" The pedophile stops the sex because he is only interested in foreskins, the boy feels rejected.
For rest of his life the boy has neurosis about no foreskin.
Second story, "I had one experience when I was a boy. He was french tourist in Egypt. I had sex with boys before but never saw uncircumcised. He offered money and I was poor. We went to the rocks on the beach. It was so ugly and smelled like fish. I ran away. I did not get the money." This boy decides for himself, nobody tells him if circumcised or uncircumcised is better. He look at uncircumcised, he is disgusted, he stops the sex immediately.
For the rest of his life this boy is happy with his circumcised penis.

Jordan, thanks for finding and presenting these two contrasting reactions of young boys to the uncircumcised penises of men who want to molest them. The examples are most instructive.

[Oliver]

Post by n***@gmail.com
The zeal to find merit and medical justification in circumcision is as old as the mutilation. In cultures that do not find same, a normal man is harangued and socially shamed until he submits.

Translation:

In cultures where some men are circumcised and some are not, people can compare the sight, smell, and experience of both. In such cultures, it is the uncircumcised, not the circumcised, who feel shame about their penises.