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My Glock 22!!! :D
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Garp
2003-07-26 22:33:08 UTC
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I see you would be too much of a pussy boy to do it yourself. Maybe you and hugh
penis lover young can get together and examine each others penis.

Slurp, slurp.
1). you could run your own circ clinic
2). you could "knock off" some of the troublemakers of this group.
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Subject: My Glock 22!!! :D
Date: 7/26/03 1:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
This has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision, but I am telling
everyone (just cause I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
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Subject: My Glock 22!!! :D
Date: 7/26/03 1:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
This has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision, but I am telling
everyone (just cause I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
CoolBoyHot
2003-07-26 22:44:12 UTC
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From: "Kenny Thomas"
I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
Cool huh? :P
No its not cool.... its totally uncool.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-07-27 22:19:28 UTC
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Post by CoolBoyHot
From: "Kenny Thomas"
I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
Cool huh? :P
No its not cool.... its totally uncool.
You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool??? You're as
much of a Doofus as Darrin.
Ocenturian35
2003-07-28 03:15:20 UTC
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:19:28
You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool???
No Maze, he is saying that an 18 year old virgin that has threatened suicide on
ALT.DEPRESSION with chilling suicidal ideation and self hatred as to claim he
has only a cat as a freind. May not be the best person too be walking, around
the neighborhood armed? I am a fervant believer in the right to bear arms
however read kenny's suicide note and tell us honestly he deserves a handgun.
BTW Kenny claims to hate the USA and Jews.
And has threatened to kill US soldiers (If he could.) Will you take
responsibility when this kid finaly blows a gasket? You claim to be rich? Here
and now publicly declare you will be held financialy responsible for any of
kennie's future shooting victims when he blows? Didn't think so. I love the
second ammendment however not for individuals suffering suicidal ideation, and
a self loathing hatred of the USA combined with threats to kill USA
servicemen!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny Thomas
2003-07-28 05:50:38 UTC
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A free one?

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You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool???
Theres nothing in the const that gives him a right to a gun.. unless hes
in a
militia.
What sane country lets an 18yr old boy virgin...and wannabe cop... with
bad
attitude...and his own foreskin website...have a gun????
Josema
2003-07-31 08:09:08 UTC
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Post by CoolBoyHot
From: "Kenny Thomas"
I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
Cool huh? :P
No its not cool.... its totally uncool.
You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool??? You're as
much of a Doofus as Darrin.
When do you think to burn and renew this odd an ancient ridiculous
Constitution you have?...Thanks to this obsolete Constitution, American
democracy and Republic is one of the most complex and less representative or
truly "democratic" one on Earth.

No, man, killing devices AREN'T COOL, and a Constitution written by ancient
bearded men who had colts on their belts, a Constitution that tells you must
own arms in order to protect yourself against your own government by means
of militias, and a Constitution that tells you it's right you to have the
possibility of killing another folk near your pocket is NOT COOL. This was
suitable when indians were around and you wanted to exterminate them, but
not nowadays.
In fact, your silly Constitution gives you the absolute right of having a
missile launcher or even a nuclear weapon on your garage, you fool.

Go and renew that obsolete Constitution and perhaps this will become somehow
cool.

Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 01:51:42 UTC
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Agreed, no matter how much I dislike the USA, I have to say that they have
the best form of government there is and the most well written and executed
documented constitution in history.

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When do you think to burn and renew this odd an ancient ridiculous
Constitution you have?.
At least the US doesnt have a NEW and ridiculous constitution like Spain,
which reintroduced the monarchy in the late twentieth century.
Actually the constitution has served Americans rather well. Virtually
every
progressive change in the US in the past half century has resulted from
judicial interpretation of the constitution -- not from legislative
initiative.
Josema
2003-08-02 08:22:17 UTC
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Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
No, that means that this is OLD and this is not able to cover modern needs,
so lawyers can step over this old text, twisting and distorting it as much
as they want, simply because the fact "was not a possibility when the
Constitution was done".

A rigid and ancient Constitution is not a help, just a curiosity everybody
punches and kicks. Bearded men are anymore running on streets bearing a colt
and the saloons doesn't anymore need to be ruled...fullstop. Democracy
evolutioned a lot since that old paper, nations go ahead, if you want to
saty stuck a pair of centuries ago thanks to this outdated Constitution this
is your problem, just look at how the senate and president are choosed with
one of the less direct and less democratic system on Earth that your
Constitution describes. No way to really control the power your President
takes, no rule of people, an absurd Senate that does nothing...Really
pathetic, as seen on last Bush's robbery of Presidence a pair of years ago.
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
I agree with you here
But you shouldn't come here and shout you have a new weapon, this is
CHILDISH. Since I watched Bowling for Columbine I feel sorry for Americans
with this weapons issue. USA walks backwards, and backwards, and backwards
on History and Human issues...just look at them, using the brute force, the
menace, the arrogance, the lie and the war when the rest of people believe
on peace and inteligence and harmony...can anybody tell the cut marines they
arrived late to the age of Empires?...even their dick is an outdated example
of abuse an ancient nonsense...

Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 18:47:24 UTC
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Well...you have proven that you know very little about the United States
Constitution. The way the constitution works is so complex but yet so
simple. First of all lawyers do not interpret or distort the laws or the
constitution, the judges do. That's their job. But that aside, the US
constitution is vague...it doesn't specifically list things that need to be
done. It's open ended. This is why it works so well. Now...I must admit,
there are some things that aren't covered in the constitution because they
weren't around then, such as the internet etc...but, they don't need
ammendments or have rules listed in the constitution for that to work.
Remember the constitution does not give the laws of the land...it is just a
skeleton of what the government is made of and how it should be run. The
laws of the land that govern the people don't come directly from the
constitution, but come from the US Code. If you go out and kill someone,
your not breaking an ammendment in the US Constitution...even though it says
in the constitution about not depriving someone of life libery or
property...that doesn't apply to you the citizen, but to the government. The
US Constitution is saying "The GOVERNMENT can't deprive someone of life,
liberty or process without due process of law" But since we know, and yuo
know that murder is terrible and should be illegal we made a LAW, a CODE
that says murder is illegal. And the government's right to create such a law
came from the constitution. I think you have gravely misunderstood exactly
what a constitution is.

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Post by Josema
Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
No, that means that this is OLD and this is not able to cover modern needs,
so lawyers can step over this old text, twisting and distorting it as much
as they want, simply because the fact "was not a possibility when the
Constitution was done".
A rigid and ancient Constitution is not a help, just a curiosity everybody
punches and kicks. Bearded men are anymore running on streets bearing a colt
and the saloons doesn't anymore need to be ruled...fullstop. Democracy
evolutioned a lot since that old paper, nations go ahead, if you want to
saty stuck a pair of centuries ago thanks to this outdated Constitution this
is your problem, just look at how the senate and president are choosed with
one of the less direct and less democratic system on Earth that your
Constitution describes. No way to really control the power your President
takes, no rule of people, an absurd Senate that does nothing...Really
pathetic, as seen on last Bush's robbery of Presidence a pair of years ago.
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
I agree with you here
But you shouldn't come here and shout you have a new weapon, this is
CHILDISH. Since I watched Bowling for Columbine I feel sorry for Americans
with this weapons issue. USA walks backwards, and backwards, and backwards
on History and Human issues...just look at them, using the brute force, the
menace, the arrogance, the lie and the war when the rest of people believe
on peace and inteligence and harmony...can anybody tell the cut marines they
arrived late to the age of Empires?...even their dick is an outdated example
of abuse an ancient nonsense...
Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-03 21:40:10 UTC
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Well...you have proven that you know very little about the United States
Constitution.
Kenny, if something you should know about me after more than two years
writing here it's I NEVER write a word unless I KNOW what I am talking
about. I always booted troll assess by offering well informed and true text
and links, never just waving and jumping or calling names, you know. Is your
memory so weak?...

Should I send you a copy of this?...

"Section. 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of
Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States,
and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite
for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained
to the age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the
United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that
State in which he shall be chosen."

I DO know USA Constitution, folk.

Why don't you search for an Spanish or French or German Constitution text in
english and see the differences and understand the uselessness of these old
papers you have and are so proud of?


The way the constitution works is so complex but yet so
Post by Kenny Thomas
simple. First of all lawyers do not interpret or distort the laws or the
constitution, the judges do. That's their job. But that aside, the US
constitution is vague...it doesn't specifically list things that need to be
done. It's open ended. This is why it works so well.
Every Constitution is open ended, man!

Now...I must admit,
Post by Kenny Thomas
there are some things that aren't covered in the constitution because they
weren't around then, such as the internet etc...but, they don't need
ammendments or have rules listed in the constitution for that to work.
Remember the constitution does not give the laws of the land...it is just a
skeleton of what the government is made of and how it should be run.
I am civil servant, don't explain me what a Constitution is, guy!

The
Post by Kenny Thomas
laws of the land that govern the people don't come directly from the
constitution, but come from the US Code. If you go out and kill someone,
your not breaking an ammendment in the US Constitution...even though it says
in the constitution about not depriving someone of life libery or
property...that doesn't apply to you the citizen, but to the government. The
US Constitution is saying "The GOVERNMENT can't deprive someone of life,
liberty or process without due process of law"
Really?...Then, why don't you apply this to the people at Guantanamo,
man?...Your government deprived them of liberty and process without due
process of law. Parlament don't tells a shit, lawyers don't tell a shit.
What do you have to tell about this, Kenny?...Is your Constitution really an
old puppet your government uses and distorts according to their private
interest?. How would you explain this ammendment to a guy at Guantanamo, put
there by your government?...

But since we know, and yuo
Post by Kenny Thomas
know that murder is terrible and should be illegal we made a LAW, a CODE
that says murder is illegal. And the government's right to create such a law
came from the constitution. I think you have gravely misunderstood exactly
what a constitution is.
No, it's you who misunderstood and thought I don't know the rule a
Constitution has and didn't know the difference among a Constitution and a
law.

In Spain, like most of modern democracies, Law and Government are
absolutelly separated. Constitution gives the skeleton and puts the limits,
Parliament creates the laws that develop the Constitution promoted by
Government or other Parliament parties, and lawyers in different parcels
apply and interpret these laws and codes created to apply a law. Parliament
has the power, not an Emperor-like Bushpresident. There is a different Court
that controls everything done by Parliament or Government is into
Constitution, it's not ordinary lawyers who do but an independent Court.
Every function and every structure and purpose is clearly set by
Constitution, an mainly how every body controls the nice and legal work of
the rest of bodies, establishing exact rules and procedures that later are
developed by Parliament laws.
Parliament directly represents people according to the election results, 18
Parliaments existent at Spain do, according to the 18 Constititions we have
(1 general, 17 regional).

All of these Constitutions, including the main one can be CHANGED if needs
are so big, following a complex but POSSIBLE procedure. It's rigid
Constitution, Constitutions must stay on time, stay but not STUCK, never
stuck since times change and needs change too.

Download and read the Spanish Constitution (I recommend because this is an
easy to understand Constitution, written with modern talk) and stop thinking
your old papers are the best an only Constitution in the World, pal.

Just the fact this gives you the right to bear an arm and form a militia
because you shouldn't trust the Government and society this Constitution
figures to create and rule tells you a lot about absurdity and faults and
about the kind of police state you always lived under. This government
doesn't serve you...serves himself. Uncle Sam was called once, Big Bro is
called nowadays. And you serve him with your happy marine gun to fight "the
enemies of your nation", your sons being mutilated at Sam's orders and your
rancid and blind usual "patriotism" attacks.

Poor Amerikans, under this police and militar state. When will you boot the
dictatorship that drowns your liberties instead of trying to give them?


Cheers,
Josema
Winding Highway
2003-08-03 22:12:55 UTC
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Date: 8/3/2003
n Spain, like most of modern democracies, Law and Government are
absolutelly separated. Constitution gives the skeleton and puts the limits,
Parliament creates the laws that develop the Constitution promoted by
Government or other Parliament parties, and lawyers in different parcels
apply and interpret these laws and codes created to apply a law. Parliament
has the power, not an Emperor-like Bushpresident. There is a different Court
that controls everything done by Parliament or Government is into
Constitution, it's not ordinary lawyers who do but an independent Court.
Every function and every structure and purpose is clearly set by
Constitution, an mainly how every body controls the nice and legal work of
the rest of bodies, establishing exact rules and procedures that later are
developed by Parliament laws.
Parliament directly represents people according to the election results, 18
Parliaments existent at Spain do, according to the 18 Constititions we have
(1 general, 17 regional).
Why doesnt Josema-Jarri mention the role of the new KING in this miraculous
constitution of a "modern democracy?"

Was it democratic to ban Basque newspapers and Basque candidates in recent
elections? Are Spanish voters not mature enough to evaluate news and choose
who they wish to represent them?

Is there any chance that Spanish freedom and independence will be extended to
Spains two colonies in Morocco -- the only remaining European colonies on the
African continent?

Will Spain recognize the recent referendum in which more than 99 percent of the
residents of Gibraltar voted against ANY connection with Spain -- or will the
great Spanish democracy continue to demand the annexation of this profoundly
unwilling territory?

Will the Spanish fishing fleet stop its arrogant invasion of the sovereign
fishing grounds of other nations, notably Ireland, that lack a navy to stop
this rapacious banditry?

How did Spain, blessed with this superb constitution and stuffed from border to
border with sagacious citizens who deplore the United States, end up the # 3
partner to the apeish warmonger Bush?

Something is rotten in the Kingdom of Spain.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:10:31 UTC
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Josema, simply siting a section of the constitution (an irrelevant and
random one at that) doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. I
could quote ancient texts written in latin, but that doesn't mean I
understand them.

Josema, I am not "proud" of the United States Constitution, but I have
studied it enough to know what it means and how powerful it is in the world
and in the United States. I do live here in the USA now you know? I took
American Government in school and am happy to report I recived and A in it.
How many American Government classes have you taken?

The Constitution of the United States was written in such a fashion to be
able to adapt and change to any event in any time regardless of the
situation.

Joesema, the Spanish, French, German, British etc... constitutions were
thrown out so many times because they just didn't work. Times changed and
they needed to disregard their constitution. There is a saying that goes "If
it's not broken, don't fix it". This applies to the United States
Constitution. No matter how much I hate the American Society, I must agree
that after living here for years I can say they have the most efficient
government in the world. Does that mean that it is perfect? No, of course
not. But the process that the government follows is flawless.

You statement about Guantanamo is completely rediculous, first of all you
wrote and I quote "Your government deprived them of liberty and process
without due process of law." If you knew anything about the US constitution
you would have recognized that I made a spelling mistake in my original
message, the actual quote is "The GOVERNMENT can't deprive someone of life,
liberty or /property/ without due process of law." I accidently put process
instead of property and you mimicked my mistake, if you know all these facts
about the constitution you should have corrected me, not copied my mistake.
Either way, it matters not, Gunatanamo is not a member of the Union, ie,
they are not part of the United States, the constitution does not apply to
them. However, I am not sure what you are talking about when you mention
them. Maybe I just dont remember or havent watched enough CNN lately, but
what did the USA do to them?

The United States has a total of 51 constitutions, 1 Federal and 50 state
constitutions. You do realize that Spain and the United States are not THAT
different in government with the exception that it is a Monarchy, the people
are represented in the government there just as they are here.

May I ask, what specifically you feel is wrong with the constitution of the
United States? Please, if you don't mind, quote specifics.

BTW, the right to bear arms in the United States is part of being a free
country. When the founding fathers created the constitution they
specifically created the 2nd amendment because of a man named George Mason.
George Mason, for those that don't know, wrote a letter to the fathers
saying that there should be a check against the militia. The fathers stated
they wanted the National Government to have the ability to call for and
create, arm and disipline an army within two years and be able to send them
off to fight in case of war. However, the opposing group (called the
anti-federalists, who wanted the federal government to be weaker and the
powers to rest with the people) said in short "Hey! Wait a minute! How is it
fair that you can arm these people and not let us carry arms?! What do we do
in times of peace when these soliders want something and just steal it?! Are
we to sit by and just let them have it?" So Mr. Mason said that an
additional check would be to allow EVERYONE to have arms. He said in his own
words "The best way to enslave a people is to disarm them" and he is right,
he continued and said "divine providence had given every individual the
right of self-defense, clearly including the right to defend one's political
liberty within that term." Which basically means that "we want protection
from our own government!" While it has never come to this (with the
exception of the civil war, which was actually a time of 2 seperate
constitutions) the right to defend yourself from anyone and anything,
including your own government is a God given right, otherwise you become
enslaved, or may become enslaved.
Winding Highway
2003-08-05 01:37:50 UTC
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Date: 8/4/2003
I
could quote ancient texts written in latin, but that doesn't mean I
understand them.
I can help with you with that :)
the Spanish, French, German, British etc... constitutions were
thrown out so many times because they just didn't work.
Britain has never had a written constitution. The British "constitution" is
a set of interrelated traditions, assumptions, and occasionally laws. The Brits
understand it rather well in an intuitive way. Its rather like cricket -- if
you werent to the manner born, its basically incomprehensible. Non-colonials
are quite perplexed about how a game of cricket can last three or four days,
with almost no perceptible action -- especially when one team stops scoring in
order to give the other team a sporting chance, or the whole excruciatingly
tedious event ends, as so often, in a draw.
BTW, the right to bear arms in the United States is part of being a free
country.
I think you would be hard pressed to find international evidence that an armed
citizenry is a prerequisite for freedom.
Josema
2003-08-07 20:57:10 UTC
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Josema I haven't taken any Spanish Government classes, but I am not
talking
about Spain so it doesn't matter.
I already explained the Florida voting problem, it was a physical problem
with the ballots, not the system of government.
Kenny, I repeat you. You shouldn't take offense about the things I write
here. My way of talking is sometimes hard, but this is just that:
hard...Amerikans don't react with soft ideas, to spoil their mind a big
shock is needed. Not hate or personal attack should be seen on that.

During this conversation I hope I wrote nothing you took as an attack. If
so, please, forgive me. If I hate trolls that's sure I don't want to look
like one myself...You have been minded and patient trying to correct me when
you thought I was wrong, and this is full appreciated.

Cheers,
Josema
Serialpest
2003-08-02 11:24:16 UTC
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Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
And what about the amendments? Mmmm yeah.
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
Oh please. Guns are for killing people. That is their only purpose.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-02 21:44:48 UTC
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Oh, and by the way....The countries where the populace is required to
own a firearm, like Switzerland, where Hitler decided NOT to invade with
the Vermacht, are the most law abiding and crime free on the face of the
planet.
Post by Josema
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Post by CoolBoyHot
From: "Kenny Thomas"
I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
Cool huh? :P
No its not cool.... its totally uncool.
You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool??? You're as
much of a Doofus as Darrin.
When do you think to burn and renew this odd an ancient ridiculous
Constitution you have?...Thanks to this obsolete Constitution, American
democracy and Republic is one of the most complex and less representative or
truly "democratic" one on Earth.
No, man, killing devices AREN'T COOL, and a Constitution written by ancient
bearded men who had colts on their belts, a Constitution that tells you must
own arms in order to protect yourself against your own government by means
of militias, and a Constitution that tells you it's right you to have the
possibility of killing another folk near your pocket is NOT COOL. This was
suitable when indians were around and you wanted to exterminate them, but
not nowadays.
In fact, your silly Constitution gives you the absolute right of having a
missile launcher or even a nuclear weapon on your garage, you fool.
Go and renew that obsolete Constitution and perhaps this will become somehow
cool.
Cheers,
Josema
FitzHerbert
2003-08-03 02:52:06 UTC
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Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Oh, and by the way....The countries where the populace is required to
own a firearm, like Switzerland,
I don't know much about Switzerland. Is this accurate?

"Since the origins of the Swiss Confederation in 1291, it has been the
duty of every male Swiss citizen to be armed and to serve in the
militia. After basic training, each soldier receives a military
firearm and ammunition to keep at home, to facilitate rapid
mobilisation of the armed forces. The ammunition is received in a
sealed box, which may be opened only in a warlike emergency. The box
and the seal on it are checked during every service, that is at least
once every year.

Despite claims that Switzerland is one of the most armed countries in
the world, only 27% of Swiss households have firearms, 60% of which
are military weapons. This figure is comparable to Canada, Finland and
Norway, and is a consequence of the high proportion of foreigners
(18%) and the many female-headed and single person households in
Switzerland. In short, despite having a militia, firearm ownership
rates in Switzerland are analogous to other countries.

Although firearm numbers in Switzerland are similar to other
countries, its gun death rate is high, a consequence of its elevated
suicide rate.

[...]

Killias also refutes claims that the high number of firearms in
Switzerland significantly reduces burglaries. First, and has been
mentioned, firearm numbers in Switzerland are comparable to other
countries, and so are not high, despite the presence of a militia.
Secondly, it is prohibited to keep military guns loaded at home, and
an unloaded weapon, with the ammunition in a sealed box is not much of
a deterrent to burglars.

Following several mass murders with guns, concern about crime and
outside pressure to toughen their gun control laws, Switzerland
strengthened and standardised these in 1996, so reducing provincial
(cantonal) control of firearms by strengthening federal jurisdiction.
"

http://www.gca.org.za/facts/briefs/10switzerland.htm
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
where Hitler decided NOT to invade with the Vermacht
Why would he bother? How many Nazis did the Swiss kill in WW2?
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
are the most law abiding and crime free on the face of the planet.
What was that story about Swiss bank accounts and WW2?


Hope this helps,
Neville
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-02 21:47:23 UTC
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Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
Here, Here, Kenny.
In the U.K. where you can't get a gun, a terrorist just has to walk into
a school with a knife in order to slaughter innocent children as is
evidenced just a few years ago.
FitzHerbert
2003-08-03 02:29:14 UTC
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Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
No it doesn't, Kenny. It means you're stuck with it.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
Here, Here, Kenny.
In the U.K. where you can't get a gun
Eh? Who told you that? Many country types own rifles and/or shotguns.
How else are farmers supposed to kill themsehns?
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
a terrorist just has to walk into a school with a knife in order to slaughter
innocent children as is evidenced just a few years ago.
What "terrorist" was that? I do wish people would stop misusing that
word.

The only use that handguns have is for harming folk. This is not the
case with a knife. That is why handguns are banned in the UK and
knives are not. Same goes for hammers.

Care to compare murder rates?
Josema
2003-08-03 20:50:11 UTC
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Post by FitzHerbert
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running constitution
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
No it doesn't, Kenny. It means you're stuck with it.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people. Plain and simple.
Here, Here, Kenny.
In the U.K. where you can't get a gun
Eh? Who told you that? Many country types own rifles and/or shotguns.
How else are farmers supposed to kill themsehns?
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
a terrorist just has to walk into a school with a knife in order to slaughter
innocent children as is evidenced just a few years ago.
What "terrorist" was that? I do wish people would stop misusing that
word.
You know, Fitz, now for Amerikans every bad guy is a "terrorist".

Typical distortion you should be used to...didn''t them spoil last two wars
in the name of "fighting terrorists"?.
Didn't you watch the movie "Bowling for Columbine"?. Amerikans always need
to draw an enemy, a general enemy their Government likes to use in order to
fool citizens. USA has a Constitution that gives them a police state,
absolute police state. Now that Comunists are anymore a believable menace
it's muslims and "terrorists" turn, so the police state can keep its war
machine and absolute control status.

Due to my work I know more about political movements and USA (and others)
Constitutions than Kenny thinks...

"Terrorists" are the 600 poor (mostly inocent) men that are locked and
without basic Human Rights or a judgement at Guantanamo, the World doesn't
forget how "American Justice, Liberty and Respect" works.

Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:17:05 UTC
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Josema, you are acting like the USA is the wild wild west! People don't walk
around outside with guns shooting people at saloons. Deaths with firearms
occur as single crimes and in some cases serial crimes. The normal civilian
doesn't use his gun to kill people, a normal civilian uses his gun to hunt,
for sport and for fun. Contrary to what you might believe, more people shoot
at deer and paper targets in the USA than they do at people.

The United States Constitution practically strangles the US Government. Do
you realize how long it takes for a bill to become a law? (hears the
jailhouse rock theme and shakes his head clear) Months! Sometimes years! The
US Government can't go out and just pass laws, they can't raise taxes
without a 2/3 vote (which is harder than you might think when half of them
hate the other half). Do you realize that it was done that way on purpose?
The US Government, regardless of what you might think is probably the
weakest central government in the world right now! More power rest with the
people and the people want to be able to be armed. Simple as that.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Josema, the US constitution is the LONGEST and OLDEST running
constitution
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
in the world that is still running. That means that it works.
Killing devices are just that devices. The gun doesn't kill people,
people
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
kill people. Plain and simple.
Here, Here, Kenny.
In the U.K. where you can't get a gun, a terrorist just has to walk into
a school with a knife in order to slaughter innocent children as is
evidenced just a few years ago.
Oh, yes, and if teachers and children had guns on their pockets that
baddie
Post by Kenny Thomas
with the knife wouldn't enter the school to do such a nasty thing that
happens because normal people are not armed...If dared a firefight like on
a
Post by Kenny Thomas
saloon could take place for a better amusement...
Oh, why didn't I think about this before?...
So, having a weapon is a solution for exactly...what?. The evil is in your
head, the easy possession of a weapon only spoils that evil. The more
weapons the more bullets, the more bullets the more "adrenaline discharge"
as Kenny tells, and the more "adrenaline discharges" the more heads broken
by CIVILIAN gunfire.
This is simple, plain and easy. If you are afraid of your government being
tyrannical, buy a gun...OR CREATE A SERIOUS CONSTITUTION TO CONTROL THAT
GOVERMENT. But on nations where we live and trust true democracy we don't
need them, thanks. Our government protects us, not us against a phantom
menace. Guns are for soldiers, law enforcers and criminals, not for people
who lives on normal and sane societies where neighbors don't shot
neighbors
Post by Kenny Thomas
for stepping over the flowers on the garden.
On nations where our government cares for us routine circumcision is not
allowed. Human beings have the basic right of body integrity if eveything
is
Post by Kenny Thomas
healthy. Doesn't your USA government aknowledge that right?...what a
pity...buy a gun in the case they want to cut you a hand next...
Cheers,
Josema
Eric Boyd
2003-08-05 05:18:57 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
The United States Constitution practically strangles the US Government. Do
you realize how long it takes for a bill to become a law? (hears the
jailhouse rock theme and shakes his head clear) Months! Sometimes years!
And in the case of the 27th amendment, 203 years.

Proposed amendments now have an expiration date. If they are not passed
within a certain amount of time they lose their chance to become part of the
constitution. These laws were not in effect at the time what became the 27th
amendment was proposed, so it was able to come back to life after 200 years.

FYI, the 27th amendment says that if Congress votes itself a pay raise, no
one can get the extra money until after his seat has come up for election.

-E
Josema
2003-08-05 15:45:11 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Josema, you are acting like the USA is the wild wild west! People don't walk
around outside with guns shooting people at saloons. Deaths with firearms
occur as single crimes and in some cases serial crimes. The normal civilian
doesn't use his gun to kill people, a normal civilian uses his gun to hunt,
for sport and for fun. Contrary to what you might believe, more people shoot
at deer and paper targets in the USA than they do at people.
The United States Constitution practically strangles the US Government. Do
you realize how long it takes for a bill to become a law? (hears the
jailhouse rock theme and shakes his head clear) Months! Sometimes years! The
US Government can't go out and just pass laws, they can't raise taxes
without a 2/3 vote (which is harder than you might think when half of them
hate the other half). Do you realize that it was done that way on purpose?
The US Government, regardless of what you might think is probably the
weakest central government in the world right now! More power rest with the
people and the people want to be able to be armed. Simple as that.
...So curious you are losing so many Civil Rights and the development of
many others are stalled thanks to Bushie and his Empires game and you are
only worried about your right to shoot your neighbor's head...while firearm
manufacturers are becoming so powerful not even law can act against them
since they are fully protected by your government.

People doesn't want to be armed. People gets arms because the neighbors have
them and because Amerikans aren't friendly even each other.



"Overall, the data provided by the 26 countries included a total of 2872
deaths among children aged less than 15 years for a period of 1 year.
Homicides accounted for 1995 deaths, including 1177 (59%) in boys and 818
(41%) in girls. Of the homicides, 1464 (73%) occurred among U.S. children.
The homicide rate for children in the United States was five times higher
than that for children in the other 25 countries combined (2.57 per 100,000
compared with 0.51) (Table_1).

Suicide accounted for the deaths of 599 children, including 431 (72%) in
boys and 168 (28%) in girls. Of the suicides, 321 (54%) occurred among U.S.
children. The suicide rate for children in the United States was two times
higher than that in the other 25 countries combined (0.55 compared with
0.27) (Table_1). No suicides were reported among children aged less than 5
years.

A firearm was reported to have been involved in the deaths of 1107 children;
957 (86%) of those occurred in the United States. Of all firearm-related
deaths, 55% were reported as homicides; 20%, as suicides; 22%, as
unintentional; and 3%, as intention undetermined. The overall
firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was
nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries
combined (1.66 compared with 0.14) (Table_1). The firearm-related homicide
rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the
other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related
suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the
unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36
compared with 0.04). For all countries, males accounted for most of the
firearm-related homicides (67%), firearm-related suicides (77%), and
unintentional firearm-related deaths (89%). The nonfirearm-related homicide
rate in the United States was nearly four times the rate in all of the other
countries (1.63 compared with 0.45), and nonfirearm-related suicide rates
were similar in the United States and in all of the other countries combined
(0.23 compared with 0.24).

The rate for firearm-related deaths among children in the United States
(1.66) was 2.7-fold greater than that in the country with the next highest
rate (Finland, 0.62) (Figure_1). Except for rates for firearm-related
suicide in Northern Ireland and firearm-related fatalities of unknown intent
in Austria, Belgium, and Israel, rates for all types of firearm-related
deaths were higher in the United States than in the other countries.
However, among all other countries, the impact of firearm-related deaths
varied substantially. For example, five countries, including three of the
four countries in Asia, reported no firearm-related deaths among children.
In comparison, firearms were the primary cause of homicide in Finland,
Israel, Australia, Italy, Germany, and England and Wales. Five countries
(Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, and Taiwan) reported only
unintentional firearm-related deaths.

Reported by: Div of Violence Prevention, National Center for Injury
Prevention and Control, CDC. "



This extracted from http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm



"Compared to other industrialized countries, violence and firearm death
rates in the United States are disproportionately high. Of the approximately
50 upper- and middle-income countries with available data, an estimated
115,000 firearm deaths occur annually and the U.S. contributes about
30,000.8 Among industrialized nations, the U.S. firearm-related death rate
is more than twice that of the next highest country (See Figure 3). The
firearm death rate in the U.S. (14.24 per 100,000) is eight times the
average rate of its economic counterparts (1.76).9 "



This extracted from
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/ficap/resourceBook/sectionOneIntl.htm



And now look at this, extracted from the Guardia Civil (militarized police
body) Government website in Spain.

(http://www.guardiacivil.org/11quees/organizacion/organosdeapoyo/gabinete/ca
p/nota14.asp)

"El análisis de los factores por los que España tiene un nivel de violencia
interpersonal sensiblemente inferior al de la mayoría de los países
occidentales representa una cuestión del mayor interés,que hasta ahora no ha
sido suficientemente investigada. Un factor que sin duda incide en la baja
tasa de homicidios es el estricto control de las armas de fuego. De acuerdo
con una encuesta de hace unos años, sólo un 2,5 de los españoles tenían
acceso a un arma de fuego, frente a una media europea de 5 % y una cifra de
29 % en Estados Unidos, por lo que no es sorprendente que tales armas sólo
se emplearan en el 18 % de los homicidios perpetrados en España en 1996,
mientras que en Estados Unidos se emplean en el 70 % de los casos. "



More or less tells: "Spain has the lowest private violence rate at Europe. A
factor that explains this low homicide rate is THE STRICT FIREARMS CONTROL.
According to rates some years ago, only 2.5 per cent of Spanish citizens had
access to a firearm, in front of a 5% of Europenas and a """""29%"""" at
USA, so it's not susrprising such firearms where used only on 18% of
homicides done at Spain, while firearms where used at USA on a """"""70%""""
of them."

I didn't tell this, it was the militar police in charge of controlling
firearms who told.



Still proud of your right to kill each other?.



Cheers,

Josema











Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 21:09:05 UTC
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No, Josema, the USA is run by the people. If the people don't want guns,
they would be illegal. They want them, so they are legal.

You are so seriously flawwed when you talk about the constitution it makes
me wonder if you even know how it works!

Guns are NOT pretty ok. They aren't toys...they are meant to kill things,
people included, but there are laws buddy, laws that say only certain people
can have guns, are there ways around those laws? Yes, but there are ways
around every law.

Your statistics are nothing new man. I know the USA has more firearm deaths
than any other country...in a place where guns are readily accessable they
tend to do that...Maybe if they made guns illegal here, the number of
murders with cars, or knives, would go up? In the final analysis people are
going to get murdered, how they got murdered is irrelevant. If someone is
killed with a gun or a knife it matters not...they are dead and chances are
it would have happened eventually anyways. If someone wants to kill you,
they will find out how. You know in Prisons there are murders, people get
killed with plastic forks...a weapon is just a weapon, a gun is no different
than a plastic fork. A gun can be used illegally to murder, or legally for
target practice, sport etc....a fork can be used illegally to murder and
stab, but it can be used legally to eat with...The USA is good to allow guns
because...now listen to this....because they realized ages ago that if you
deny your citizens the right to bear arms, later on your government might
decide to strip them of the right to carry knives, to hunt, etc...and
suddenly the country goes back to what the founding fathers were trying to
flee...oppression.


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Post by Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
Josema, you are acting like the USA is the wild wild west! People don't
walk
Post by Kenny Thomas
around outside with guns shooting people at saloons. Deaths with firearms
occur as single crimes and in some cases serial crimes. The normal
civilian
Post by Kenny Thomas
doesn't use his gun to kill people, a normal civilian uses his gun to
hunt,
Post by Kenny Thomas
for sport and for fun. Contrary to what you might believe, more people
shoot
Post by Kenny Thomas
at deer and paper targets in the USA than they do at people.
The United States Constitution practically strangles the US Government. Do
you realize how long it takes for a bill to become a law? (hears the
jailhouse rock theme and shakes his head clear) Months! Sometimes years!
The
Post by Kenny Thomas
US Government can't go out and just pass laws, they can't raise taxes
without a 2/3 vote (which is harder than you might think when half of them
hate the other half). Do you realize that it was done that way on purpose?
The US Government, regardless of what you might think is probably the
weakest central government in the world right now! More power rest with
the
Post by Kenny Thomas
people and the people want to be able to be armed. Simple as that.
...So curious you are losing so many Civil Rights and the development of
many others are stalled thanks to Bushie and his Empires game and you are
only worried about your right to shoot your neighbor's head...while firearm
manufacturers are becoming so powerful not even law can act against them
since they are fully protected by your government.
People doesn't want to be armed. People gets arms because the neighbors have
them and because Amerikans aren't friendly even each other.
"Overall, the data provided by the 26 countries included a total of 2872
deaths among children aged less than 15 years for a period of 1 year.
Homicides accounted for 1995 deaths, including 1177 (59%) in boys and 818
(41%) in girls. Of the homicides, 1464 (73%) occurred among U.S. children.
The homicide rate for children in the United States was five times higher
than that for children in the other 25 countries combined (2.57 per 100,000
compared with 0.51) (Table_1).
Suicide accounted for the deaths of 599 children, including 431 (72%) in
boys and 168 (28%) in girls. Of the suicides, 321 (54%) occurred among U.S.
children. The suicide rate for children in the United States was two times
higher than that in the other 25 countries combined (0.55 compared with
0.27) (Table_1). No suicides were reported among children aged less than 5
years.
A firearm was reported to have been involved in the deaths of 1107 children;
957 (86%) of those occurred in the United States. Of all firearm-related
deaths, 55% were reported as homicides; 20%, as suicides; 22%, as
unintentional; and 3%, as intention undetermined. The overall
firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was
nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries
combined (1.66 compared with 0.14) (Table_1). The firearm-related homicide
rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the
other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related
suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the
unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36
compared with 0.04). For all countries, males accounted for most of the
firearm-related homicides (67%), firearm-related suicides (77%), and
unintentional firearm-related deaths (89%). The nonfirearm-related homicide
rate in the United States was nearly four times the rate in all of the other
countries (1.63 compared with 0.45), and nonfirearm-related suicide rates
were similar in the United States and in all of the other countries combined
(0.23 compared with 0.24).
The rate for firearm-related deaths among children in the United States
(1.66) was 2.7-fold greater than that in the country with the next highest
rate (Finland, 0.62) (Figure_1). Except for rates for firearm-related
suicide in Northern Ireland and firearm-related fatalities of unknown intent
in Austria, Belgium, and Israel, rates for all types of firearm-related
deaths were higher in the United States than in the other countries.
However, among all other countries, the impact of firearm-related deaths
varied substantially. For example, five countries, including three of the
four countries in Asia, reported no firearm-related deaths among children.
In comparison, firearms were the primary cause of homicide in Finland,
Israel, Australia, Italy, Germany, and England and Wales. Five countries
(Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, and Taiwan) reported only
unintentional firearm-related deaths.
Reported by: Div of Violence Prevention, National Center for Injury
Prevention and Control, CDC. "
This extracted from http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm
"Compared to other industrialized countries, violence and firearm death
rates in the United States are disproportionately high. Of the
approximately
Post by Josema
50 upper- and middle-income countries with available data, an estimated
115,000 firearm deaths occur annually and the U.S. contributes about
30,000.8 Among industrialized nations, the U.S. firearm-related death rate
is more than twice that of the next highest country (See Figure 3). The
firearm death rate in the U.S. (14.24 per 100,000) is eight times the
average rate of its economic counterparts (1.76).9 "
This extracted from
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/ficap/resourceBook/sectionOneIntl.htm
And now look at this, extracted from the Guardia Civil (militarized police
body) Government website in Spain.
(http://www.guardiacivil.org/11quees/organizacion/organosdeapoyo/gabinete/ca
Post by Josema
p/nota14.asp)
"El análisis de los factores por los que España tiene un nivel de violencia
interpersonal sensiblemente inferior al de la mayoría de los países
occidentales representa una cuestión del mayor interés,que hasta ahora no ha
sido suficientemente investigada. Un factor que sin duda incide en la baja
tasa de homicidios es el estricto control de las armas de fuego. De acuerdo
con una encuesta de hace unos años, sólo un 2,5 de los españoles tenían
acceso a un arma de fuego, frente a una media europea de 5 % y una cifra de
29 % en Estados Unidos, por lo que no es sorprendente que tales armas sólo
se emplearan en el 18 % de los homicidios perpetrados en España en 1996,
mientras que en Estados Unidos se emplean en el 70 % de los casos. "
More or less tells: "Spain has the lowest private violence rate at Europe. A
factor that explains this low homicide rate is THE STRICT FIREARMS CONTROL.
According to rates some years ago, only 2.5 per cent of Spanish citizens had
access to a firearm, in front of a 5% of Europenas and a """""29%"""" at
USA, so it's not susrprising such firearms where used only on 18% of
homicides done at Spain, while firearms where used at USA on a
""""""70%""""
Post by Josema
of them."
I didn't tell this, it was the militar police in charge of controlling
firearms who told.
Still proud of your right to kill each other?.
Cheers,
Josema
Cheers,
Josema
FitzHerbert
2003-08-03 18:05:41 UTC
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The gun doesn't kill people
That's a shame, Kenny.

If I were you I'd take it back to the shop and ask for my money back.


Hope this helps,
Neville
Jigsaw1695
2003-08-04 00:35:32 UTC
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Post by FitzHerbert
The gun doesn't kill people
That's a shame, Kenny.
If I were you I'd take it back to the shop and ask for my money back.
LOL !!
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======================================

It doesn't even come close to your statement that you are a lawyer in
France.
Desmond Coughlan
2003-08-04 10:11:52 UTC
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Le Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:35:32 GMT, Jigsaw1695 <***@earthlink.net> a écrit :

{ snip }
Post by Jigsaw1695
It doesn't even come close to your statement that you are a lawyer in
France.
How's the 'investigation' coming along, Shit-For-Brains ? Strangely
enough ... none of the secretaries working here, have yet to receive a
letter from anyone in Florida ... despite your having claimed to have
written.

Why lie so often, Shit-For-Brains ? LOL !!
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Josema
2003-08-04 16:14:15 UTC
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Actually, you have no accurate knowledge of history. There were no
Colts during the days of the forming of the Constitution. There were
only flintlock firearms.
As far as the so-called outdated Constitution is concerned, there is no
country on the face of the Earth that people from other countries would
rather migrate to.
This is that you think. Migration is an Universal fact, this doesn't happen
only at USA, USA is not center of the World as you usually think while
waving that bars and stripes flag kissing your Emperor's ass. And this is
right, USA is one of the most racist nations all around the World (look how
they are menacing, locking and trying to exterminate muslims as an
identity), this nation was built by slaves, and still nowadays they NEED the
free hands Mexicans and Puertoricans and others offer while they are
insulted and despised by the "great Merkins" (who are just the descendants
of these inmigrants, descendants of these who exterminated the true
Americans: the native Indians).
And, yes, firearms should be owned to prevent tyranny from one's own
government as well as foreign invaders, particularly the former, which
can be evidenced all over the world. Iraq might be a good example.
A good example of what?. I remember you plain Irak population always had
guns, it's a tradition. Everybody having guns and even grenades at home
didn't prevent a Hussein's government to become tyrannical. Your example
absolutelly failed. These private guns said "hi" to Merkins as soon as they
put their unwanted noses at Irak, and still from time to time a private
bullet makes a hole on a Merkin marine. Recently USA had to raid homes and
banned guns, collecting hundreds of thems on every village. And I remember
you your airstrikes killed many civilians because it's an Irakian use to
shot the guns (private guns) on the air as a celebration. Idiotic pilots
several times thought this humble use was an attack and bombed innocents to
death. There was a gun at every home.

Please, get better information next time before showing up your ignorance
about foreign cultures and about the repugnant rol USA is playing with
invading a free and sovereign country like Irak in the name of oil and Bush
glory while pretending to act in the name of "American safety".

So you agree you are AFRAID of your own government. Tsk!, Tsk!...what a
pity!...then, what the hell do you want your beloved Constitution and System
for?
A government where only the police or the military only posses the arms
is destined to become a tyrannical government.
Will Italy, Portugal, Austria, Germany, France, Poland, U.K, Spain...become
a tyrannical government because their citizens don't have guns?...
LOL!!!!...then will USA be the only free democracy in the World thanks soon
or later they will be able to shot to dead to their governments?. Sincerely,
man, Merkins have something really wrong on their head if they can think and
tell such ridiculous things.
Sorry, but historically, that's the way it works.
Yes, and historically, that's the way it works, every empire had a bloody
and excesive expense and corruption stage, then the empire fell and sent the
nation to shit. USA is on first stage. Are you ready for the fall and
misery?. Historically, that's the way it works, no force and arrogance
empire was succesful, never.

Genghis Khan, Catholic Kings, Britons, Carlomagno, Caesar, Napoleón,
Hitler...look at the destiny of these "great empires" and you will see
yours. It's just a mirror, historically that's the way it works, you told
this.



Cheers,
Josema
Winding Highway
2003-08-04 16:24:07 UTC
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Date: 8/4/2003
Yes, and historically, that's the way it works, every empire had a bloody
and excesive expense and corruption stage, then the empire fell and sent the
nation to shit...
Genghis Khan, Catholic Kings, Britons, Carlomagno, Caesar, Napoleón,
Hitler...look at the destiny of these "great empires" and you will see
yours.
Now why on earth didnt Josema-Jarri mention the cruelest, greedist, most
religiously obsessed of all the empires that "sent the nation to shit" --
Spain?
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:28:22 UTC
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Ooooook, about the Mexicans and Puertoricans...Let's go ahead and call the
Ford plants, etc...back to the USA and take our 4.00 or whatever per hour
away from the Mexicans and pay the Americans 9.00 to do the same job...so
now the Mexicans and Puertoricans have to find another job...maybe working
in a factory for a little less than 50 cents an hour....hmmmm, personally I
don't think the Mexicans have a problem with American factorys and their
4.00 per hour wages...in fact I think they welcome them with open arms.
Anyone care to disagree?

The killed civilians in the war...terrible, but simply casualties of
war...it happens all the time.

No one said they were afraid of their own government...but if the USA were
to ever get a leader such as Hitler etc... the people have the ability to
fight back and defend themselves from their own country.

No further comments from me, except I agree with your last paragraph about
the great empires falling...America will have its turn I'm sure.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:19:35 UTC
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Exactly right.


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Actually, you have no accurate knowledge of history. There were no
Colts during the days of the forming of the Constitution. There were
only flintlock firearms.
As far as the so-called outdated Constitution is concerned, there is no
country on the face of the Earth that people from other countries would
rather migrate to.
And, yes, firearms should be owned to prevent tyranny from one's own
government as well as foreign invaders, particularly the former, which
can be evidenced all over the world. Iraq might be a good example.
A government where only the police or the military only posses the arms
is destined to become a tyrannical government.
Sorry, but historically, that's the way it works.
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Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Post by CoolBoyHot
From: "Kenny Thomas"
I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
It's a glock 22!
Cool huh? :P
No its not cool.... its totally uncool.
You're saying, of course that the Constitution is uncool??? You're as
much of a Doofus as Darrin.
When do you think to burn and renew this odd an ancient ridiculous
Constitution you have?...Thanks to this obsolete Constitution, American
democracy and Republic is one of the most complex and less representative or
truly "democratic" one on Earth.
No, man, killing devices AREN'T COOL, and a Constitution written by ancient
bearded men who had colts on their belts, a Constitution that tells you must
own arms in order to protect yourself against your own government by means
of militias, and a Constitution that tells you it's right you to have the
possibility of killing another folk near your pocket is NOT COOL. This was
suitable when indians were around and you wanted to exterminate them, but
not nowadays.
In fact, your silly Constitution gives you the absolute right of having a
missile launcher or even a nuclear weapon on your garage, you fool.
Go and renew that obsolete Constitution and perhaps this will become somehow
cool.
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:22:25 UTC
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The election of the president last term had nothing to do with the
Constitution or how the elections are done. The problem was florida's way of
voting and the type of ballots they used, that's all.

BTW, I agree Bush shouldn't be there.
Kenny Thomas
2003-07-28 04:15:58 UTC
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Really? That's awesome! Do you have any pics of it? I was thinking about
also buying a .22 glock for just target practice, 50 shots for 9 dollars is
a lot for a 40 cal. :( but its still fun! :D How much did your 23 cost you?
I payed 448 for my 22, not including the permit and other small fees.

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Glock doesn't make a .22 calibre firearm. It's the model number. Go to
their website and learn the model numbers.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Really? That's awesome! Do you have any pics of it? I was thinking about
also buying a .22 glock for just target practice, 50 shots for 9 dollars is
a lot for a 40 cal. :( but its still fun! :D How much did your 23 cost you?
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Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:32:35 UTC
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I know that the 22 is the model number, thats the gun I have! It's .40
calibre. A friend of mine bought a .22 barrel though for his miniglock and
swapped it out, and that's what it shoots. Didnt come from the factory that
way though.
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Glock doesn't make a .22 calibre firearm. It's the model number. Go to
their website and learn the model numbers.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Really? That's awesome! Do you have any pics of it? I was thinking about
also buying a .22 glock for just target practice, 50 shots for 9 dollars is
a lot for a 40 cal. :( but its still fun! :D How much did your 23 cost you?
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I have no troubles, i think you have the troubles.

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What sane country lets an 18yr old boy virgin...and wannabe cop... with
bad
attitude...and his own foreskin website...have a gun????
To boot a self hater because he is a freak in our country! Kenny sell the
gun
and spend the money getting circumcised...your troubles will be gone!
Josema
2003-07-31 07:58:11 UTC
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This has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision, but I am telling
everyone (just cause I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
You're insane if you have a killing device on your pocket and are so happy
about this you even give the new on a public Newsgroup...

Why don't you change your residence country instead of buying guns?. You
wouldn't need one if lived on a civilized country
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Cool huh? :P
A gun is never cool, you umbalanced!!!...


Cheers,
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Kenny Thomas
2003-08-01 01:45:13 UTC
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As stated many times before and the absolute last time here, I am proud of
my new gun, it's sharp looking, and is REQUIRED for my training. Even your
peace officers in Spain carry a weapon.

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Post by Josema
This has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision, but I am telling
everyone (just cause I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
You're insane if you have a killing device on your pocket and are so happy
about this you even give the new on a public Newsgroup...
Why don't you change your residence country instead of buying guns?. You
wouldn't need one if lived on a civilized country
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embled.jpg
Cool huh? :P
A gun is never cool, you umbalanced!!!...
Cheers,
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Winding Highway
2003-08-01 03:16:42 UTC
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Date: 7/31/2003
I am proud of
my new gun, it's sharp looking, and is REQUIRED for my training. Even your
peace officers in Spain carry a weapon.
Spain is hardly a model for anything. Let us remember that most of the worlds
population live in societies where even the police do not normally carry guns.
Serialpest
2003-08-01 20:30:05 UTC
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I didn't say "gun" I said weapon. That could be a blackjack, a stick, pepper
spray, a gun...anything that is normally considered a weapon. But you are
right, some countries don't let their officers carry anything. However,
living in a society that is armed (such as the united states) the peace
officers must be armed too, otherwise they are less powerful.
So many guns yet so much crime and violence. Electric chairs, lethal
injections, daily shootings there are still criminals. Doesn't that tell you
something? Hint: Power brought about by fear doesn't work - Particulary in a
fucked up country like Amerika. See the only difference between pigs and
terrorists is that one is legal terrorism and one isn't. I wouldn't
anticipate people will respect you more as a law enforcement officer than as
john citizen because they won't, no matter how big your gun is.

So when will be seeing the TACEP armed forces out on the streets liberating
the oppressed foreskins in operation dickcheese?
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 01:48:35 UTC
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I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.

While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.

Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.

But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.

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Post by Serialpest
I didn't say "gun" I said weapon. That could be a blackjack, a stick, pepper
spray, a gun...anything that is normally considered a weapon. But you are
right, some countries don't let their officers carry anything. However,
living in a society that is armed (such as the united states) the peace
officers must be armed too, otherwise they are less powerful.
So many guns yet so much crime and violence. Electric chairs, lethal
injections, daily shootings there are still criminals. Doesn't that tell you
something? Hint: Power brought about by fear doesn't work - Particulary in a
fucked up country like Amerika. See the only difference between pigs and
terrorists is that one is legal terrorism and one isn't. I wouldn't
anticipate people will respect you more as a law enforcement officer than as
john citizen because they won't, no matter how big your gun is.
So when will be seeing the TACEP armed forces out on the streets liberating
the oppressed foreskins in operation dickcheese?
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 06:19:06 UTC
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Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20 guns
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do that.

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Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
Constitutions are not set in concrete, they can be amended but with the
powerful gun lobby and their links to the republican party (terrorists)
this
will never happen. Amerika is not a free country. You cannot call someone
a
nigger or a kike or a gook without being sued. Hell you can't even board a
plane with a nail file any more. Quoting me police public relations
department propaganda with dodgy statistics will not help your cause. One
only needs to watch an Amerikan news broadcast of the police trying to
subdue someone after a robbery or a car chase to know how fucked up their
ideology is. 20 guns pointed at someone who is unarmed like they need
every
one of them to stop him getting away shouting "get down on the ground!" Oh
Please.
Josema
2003-08-02 08:43:05 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20 guns
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do that.
And do you feel proud about this cycle?...

Cheers,
Josema
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2003-08-02 19:50:47 UTC
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Proud?

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Post by Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20
guns
Post by Kenny Thomas
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do
that.
And do you feel proud about this cycle?...
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2003-08-08 01:37:44 UTC
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Post by Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20
guns
Post by Kenny Thomas
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do
that.
And do you feel proud about this cycle?...
Cheers,
Josema
Cycle????
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2003-08-02 10:34:22 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20 guns
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do that.
They have him handcuffed with two guys kneeling on him yet they still need 2
dozen drawn guns just in case he gets away. What a crock of shit. It's all
acting.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 19:57:35 UTC
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No, its called adrenaline. If someone aims a gun at you, or you are in a
situation where someone may be armed, your body releases a chemical called
epinephrine, or adrenaline. That chemical is your bodies automatic reaction
to stress. It causes autonomic nerves to function, and controls parts of
your body that you otherwise would have to think of controling. In other
words it makes you stronger, and more anxious.

Yes, the guy is on the ground, yes he is handcuffed, yes he is no longer a
threat, but your body is full of adrenaline and you "over react". See the
problem with what your saying is that you have never been in a situation
like that...you don't know what happens to your body or what you are
thinking...

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Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20 guns
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do that.
They have him handcuffed with two guys kneeling on him yet they still need 2
dozen drawn guns just in case he gets away. What a crock of shit. It's all
acting.
Josema
2003-08-03 19:51:08 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
No, its called adrenaline. If someone aims a gun at you, or you are in a
situation where someone may be armed, your body releases a chemical called
epinephrine, or adrenaline. That chemical is your bodies automatic reaction
to stress. It causes autonomic nerves to function, and controls parts of
your body that you otherwise would have to think of controling. In other
words it makes you stronger, and more anxious.
Yes, the guy is on the ground, yes he is handcuffed, yes he is no longer a
threat, but your body is full of adrenaline and you "over react". See the
problem with what your saying is that you have never been in a situation
like that...you don't know what happens to your body or what you are
thinking...
How many inocent civilians your "adrenalined", "nervous", "stronger" and
"anxious" marines killed at Afghanistan, Irak and hundred other Amerikan
wars?. Murder is the name. Others call this "trigger happy cowardly" and
"low professionality", Kenny. One doesn't need to act like Rambo or shot
children or reporters on an hotel in order to do a balanced and fair task,
man. You soldiers are umbalanced, coward and highly nervous because they
know nobody loves them anywhere...They are the bullies on this story, slaves
of the Empire, their task is not Humanitarian, their task is destructive and
distorting, somebody can put a bullet on their head in two seconds because
they don't work for peace. Another day another dead Amerikan invader at
Irak, you see...Amerikans there don't know what the hell they are fighting
for, but Irakians are fighting for their liberty and land (always remember
you are the invaders and the murders, the dictators now), you will always
lose. If your nasty mercenaries were on their country doing their own
business instead of fighting inocents for the glory of Bush and your
ridiculous Constitution that gives unlimited power to your "Presi" and a
zero power to Parlament this wouldn't happen, they shouldn't discharge their
murder "adrenaline discharge" against old men on a trial or children on a
car or journalists on an hotel. Amerikans have inocent blood on their hands,
always had.

Don't try to give reasons for the arrogant and umbalanced behavior of people
who have the "power" guns give, Kenny. This overreaction is typically
Amerikan, Amerikans like to do a show about everything, like the fake and
absurd show they gave when rescuing to private Lynch, the whole world is
laughing about the Amerika "Rambos" who did the show as if they were
fighting an army while there was (and they knew) not a single enemy soldier
in ten miles. Lynch was crying and pissing on his panties when captured, as
demonstrated later, not fighting Irakians as your twisted media wanted to
shove down our throats.
Who can trust Amerikans, masters of the lie?...

This doesn't happen on polices in other parts of the world, and this doesn't
make them less efficient. They have a respect and not such a love for
guns...gun is a tool that must be used when the rest fails, not as soon as
the "profesional" police or soldiers feels "adrenaline" or shit on their
pants.


Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-04 05:45:06 UTC
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Filthy sick pedophile.
Told by a filthy sick troll?
How uneducated and umbalanced AOLers can be?...Not a surprise at all.

You gave personal attack instead of contributing to a civilized
conversation, so welcome to my killfilter, now you can continue crawling out
of your sewer ALONE, folk.

Cheers,
Josema
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2003-08-04 08:46:54 UTC
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Date: 4 Aug 2003 00:45:06 -0500
Filthy sick pedophile.
Told by a filthy sick troll?
No the damnable evidence that you are a perverted, sick deranged child molester
is known to all that post here. You are a monster that god should remove from
this world!!!!Less you molest and possibly kill more Morrocan children.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:33:55 UTC
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They aren't my soldiers and I would never pick up a gun for the United
States. Your going off on the wrong person buddy if you think I agree with
the American Soldiers even being in Iraq.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
No, its called adrenaline. If someone aims a gun at you, or you are in a
situation where someone may be armed, your body releases a chemical called
epinephrine, or adrenaline. That chemical is your bodies automatic
reaction
Post by Kenny Thomas
to stress. It causes autonomic nerves to function, and controls parts of
your body that you otherwise would have to think of controling. In other
words it makes you stronger, and more anxious.
Yes, the guy is on the ground, yes he is handcuffed, yes he is no longer a
threat, but your body is full of adrenaline and you "over react". See the
problem with what your saying is that you have never been in a situation
like that...you don't know what happens to your body or what you are
thinking...
How many inocent civilians your "adrenalined", "nervous", "stronger" and
"anxious" marines killed at Afghanistan, Irak and hundred other Amerikan
wars?. Murder is the name. Others call this "trigger happy cowardly" and
"low professionality", Kenny. One doesn't need to act like Rambo or shot
children or reporters on an hotel in order to do a balanced and fair task,
man. You soldiers are umbalanced, coward and highly nervous because they
know nobody loves them anywhere...They are the bullies on this story, slaves
of the Empire, their task is not Humanitarian, their task is destructive and
distorting, somebody can put a bullet on their head in two seconds because
they don't work for peace. Another day another dead Amerikan invader at
Irak, you see...Amerikans there don't know what the hell they are fighting
for, but Irakians are fighting for their liberty and land (always remember
you are the invaders and the murders, the dictators now), you will always
lose. If your nasty mercenaries were on their country doing their own
business instead of fighting inocents for the glory of Bush and your
ridiculous Constitution that gives unlimited power to your "Presi" and a
zero power to Parlament this wouldn't happen, they shouldn't discharge their
murder "adrenaline discharge" against old men on a trial or children on a
car or journalists on an hotel. Amerikans have inocent blood on their hands,
always had.
Don't try to give reasons for the arrogant and umbalanced behavior of people
who have the "power" guns give, Kenny. This overreaction is typically
Amerikan, Amerikans like to do a show about everything, like the fake and
absurd show they gave when rescuing to private Lynch, the whole world is
laughing about the Amerika "Rambos" who did the show as if they were
fighting an army while there was (and they knew) not a single enemy soldier
in ten miles. Lynch was crying and pissing on his panties when captured, as
demonstrated later, not fighting Irakians as your twisted media wanted to
shove down our throats.
Who can trust Amerikans, masters of the lie?...
This doesn't happen on polices in other parts of the world, and this doesn't
make them less efficient. They have a respect and not such a love for
guns...gun is a tool that must be used when the rest fails, not as soon as
the "profesional" police or soldiers feels "adrenaline" or shit on their
pants.
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:34:24 UTC
Permalink
Ohhh nice, very nice...don't reply if you don't have anything useful to add.
Filthy sick pedophile.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
No, its called adrenaline. If someone aims a gun at you, or you are in a
situation where someone may be armed, your body releases a chemical called
epinephrine, or adrenaline. That chemical is your bodies automatic
reaction
Post by Kenny Thomas
to stress. It causes autonomic nerves to function, and controls parts of
your body that you otherwise would have to think of controling. In other
words it makes you stronger, and more anxious.
Yes, the guy is on the ground, yes he is handcuffed, yes he is no longer a
threat, but your body is full of adrenaline and you "over react". See the
problem with what your saying is that you have never been in a situation
like that...you don't know what happens to your body or what you are
thinking...
How many inocent civilians your "adrenalined", "nervous", "stronger" and
"anxious" marines killed at Afghanistan, Irak and hundred other Amerikan
wars?. Murder is the name. Others call this "trigger happy cowardly" and
"low professionality", Kenny. One doesn't need to act like Rambo or shot
children or reporters on an hotel in order to do a balanced and fair task,
man. You soldiers are umbalanced, coward and highly nervous because they
know nobody loves them anywhere...They are the bullies on this story, slaves
of the Empire, their task is not Humanitarian, their task is destructive and
distorting, somebody can put a bullet on their head in two seconds because
they don't work for peace. Another day another dead Amerikan invader at
Irak, you see...Amerikans there don't know what the hell they are fighting
for, but Irakians are fighting for their liberty and land (always remember
you are the invaders and the murders, the dictators now), you will always
lose. If your nasty mercenaries were on their country doing their own
business instead of fighting inocents for the glory of Bush and your
ridiculous Constitution that gives unlimited power to your "Presi" and a
zero power to Parlament this wouldn't happen, they shouldn't discharge their
murder "adrenaline discharge" against old men on a trial or children on a
car or journalists on an hotel. Amerikans have inocent blood on their hands,
always had.
Don't try to give reasons for the arrogant and umbalanced behavior of people
who have the "power" guns give, Kenny. This overreaction is typically
Amerikan, Amerikans like to do a show about everything, like the fake and
absurd show they gave when rescuing to private Lynch, the whole world is
laughing about the Amerika "Rambos" who did the show as if they were
fighting an army while there was (and they knew) not a single enemy soldier
in ten miles. Lynch was crying and pissing on his panties when captured, as
demonstrated later, not fighting Irakians as your twisted media wanted to
shove down our throats.
Who can trust Amerikans, masters of the lie?...
This doesn't happen on polices in other parts of the world, and this doesn't
make them less efficient. They have a respect and not such a love for
guns...gun is a tool that must be used when the rest fails, not as soon as
the "profesional" police or soldiers feels "adrenaline" or shit on their
pants.
Cheers,
Josema
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 01:45:57 UTC
Permalink
Last year, almost one million citizens defended themselves successfully
against burglars and other intruders....citizens that would have been
surely dead had they not been armed.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
No, its called adrenaline. If someone aims a gun at you, or you are in a
situation where someone may be armed, your body releases a chemical called
epinephrine, or adrenaline. That chemical is your bodies automatic
reaction
Post by Kenny Thomas
to stress. It causes autonomic nerves to function, and controls parts of
your body that you otherwise would have to think of controling. In other
words it makes you stronger, and more anxious.
Yes, the guy is on the ground, yes he is handcuffed, yes he is no longer a
threat, but your body is full of adrenaline and you "over react". See the
problem with what your saying is that you have never been in a situation
like that...you don't know what happens to your body or what you are
thinking...
How many inocent civilians your "adrenalined", "nervous", "stronger" and
"anxious" marines killed at Afghanistan, Irak and hundred other Amerikan
wars?. Murder is the name. Others call this "trigger happy cowardly" and
"low professionality", Kenny. One doesn't need to act like Rambo or shot
children or reporters on an hotel in order to do a balanced and fair task,
man. You soldiers are umbalanced, coward and highly nervous because they
know nobody loves them anywhere...They are the bullies on this story, slaves
of the Empire, their task is not Humanitarian, their task is destructive and
distorting, somebody can put a bullet on their head in two seconds because
they don't work for peace. Another day another dead Amerikan invader at
Irak, you see...Amerikans there don't know what the hell they are fighting
for, but Irakians are fighting for their liberty and land (always remember
you are the invaders and the murders, the dictators now), you will always
lose. If your nasty mercenaries were on their country doing their own
business instead of fighting inocents for the glory of Bush and your
ridiculous Constitution that gives unlimited power to your "Presi" and a
zero power to Parlament this wouldn't happen, they shouldn't discharge their
murder "adrenaline discharge" against old men on a trial or children on a
car or journalists on an hotel. Amerikans have inocent blood on their hands,
always had.
Don't try to give reasons for the arrogant and umbalanced behavior of people
who have the "power" guns give, Kenny. This overreaction is typically
Amerikan, Amerikans like to do a show about everything, like the fake and
absurd show they gave when rescuing to private Lynch, the whole world is
laughing about the Amerika "Rambos" who did the show as if they were
fighting an army while there was (and they knew) not a single enemy soldier
in ten miles. Lynch was crying and pissing on his panties when captured, as
demonstrated later, not fighting Irakians as your twisted media wanted to
shove down our throats.
Who can trust Amerikans, masters of the lie?...
This doesn't happen on polices in other parts of the world, and this doesn't
make them less efficient. They have a respect and not such a love for
guns...gun is a tool that must be used when the rest fails, not as soon as
the "profesional" police or soldiers feels "adrenaline" or shit on their
pants.
Cheers,
Josema
donawana
2003-08-08 16:41:13 UTC
Permalink
This is from a pedophile who posts pictures of boys having sex with dogs and
then calls then a fantasy photo.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Last year, almost one million citizens defended themselves successfully
against burglars and other intruders....citizens that would have been
surely dead had they not been armed.
A MILLION citizens had to shoot their guns to protect their homes?...Boy,
for sure, this is Wild Wild West despite Kenny tried to convince me on the
contrair then!.
I wouldn't like to live on such a chaotic, violent and nasty Merkin society
where a million citizens had to defend themselves against crime...what a
shame of country, as rates tell on almost every subject...Tsk, Tsk!...
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-08 19:44:31 UTC
Permalink
Josema, every country, including Spain has violent crimes and robbery. This
is nothing new.
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Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Last year, almost one million citizens defended themselves successfully
against burglars and other intruders....citizens that would have been
surely dead had they not been armed.
A MILLION citizens had to shoot their guns to protect their homes?...Boy,
for sure, this is Wild Wild West despite Kenny tried to convince me on the
contrair then!.
I wouldn't like to live on such a chaotic, violent and nasty Merkin
society
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
where a million citizens had to defend themselves against crime...what a
shame of country, as rates tell on almost every subject...Tsk, Tsk!...
Cheers,
Josema
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 01:41:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Serialpest
Post by Kenny Thomas
Well, because people can get guns in America the police point their 20 guns
at the robber because they don't KNOW he's unarmed. That's why they do that.
They have him handcuffed with two guys kneeling on him yet they still need 2
dozen drawn guns just in case he gets away. What a crock of shit. It's all
acting.
Acting?
I don't think so. Your country has more hot burgluries than the U.S.
that's because the intruder knows that the residents don't have weapons
to defend themselves. The good guys have all had their guns grabbed
while the bad guys are armed to the teeth.
YOU are the joke.
Josema
2003-08-02 08:26:12 UTC
Permalink
Nobody is telling law enforcers should'n bear weapons, Kenny.
It's plain people who on civilized nations are not allowed to buy
semi-automatic weapons and ammunition at Wallmart, folk.

Cheers,
Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
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On 1/8/03 10:55 PM, in article
I didn't say "gun" I said weapon. That could be a blackjack, a stick,
pepper
spray, a gun...anything that is normally considered a weapon. But you
are
right, some countries don't let their officers carry anything. However,
living in a society that is armed (such as the united states) the peace
officers must be armed too, otherwise they are less powerful.
So many guns yet so much crime and violence. Electric chairs, lethal
injections, daily shootings there are still criminals. Doesn't that tell
you
something? Hint: Power brought about by fear doesn't work - Particulary
in
Post by Kenny Thomas
a
fucked up country like Amerika. See the only difference between pigs and
terrorists is that one is legal terrorism and one isn't. I wouldn't
anticipate people will respect you more as a law enforcement officer
than
Post by Kenny Thomas
as
john citizen because they won't, no matter how big your gun is.
So when will be seeing the TACEP armed forces out on the streets
liberating
the oppressed foreskins in operation dickcheese?
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-02 20:26:17 UTC
Permalink
You can't buy handguns at walmart anywhere. They don't sell them and wont
recieve them for you either. The amunition can be bought there tho. I
honestly think there should be stricter regulations on guns! But just
because I think something, doesn't make it so.

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Post by Josema
Nobody is telling law enforcers should'n bear weapons, Kenny.
It's plain people who on civilized nations are not allowed to buy
semi-automatic weapons and ammunition at Wallmart, folk.
Cheers,
Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents
are
Post by Kenny Thomas
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means
that
Post by Kenny Thomas
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable
for
Post by Kenny Thomas
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can
get
Post by Kenny Thomas
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I
don't
Post by Kenny Thomas
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers
be
Post by Kenny Thomas
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the
freedom
Post by Josema
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The
United
Post by Kenny Thomas
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every
year
Post by Kenny Thomas
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA
is
Post by Kenny Thomas
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in
100
Post by Kenny Thomas
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death.
Police
Post by Kenny Thomas
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
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On 1/8/03 10:55 PM, in article
I didn't say "gun" I said weapon. That could be a blackjack, a stick,
pepper
spray, a gun...anything that is normally considered a weapon. But you
are
right, some countries don't let their officers carry anything.
However,
Post by Kenny Thomas
living in a society that is armed (such as the united states) the
peace
Post by Kenny Thomas
officers must be armed too, otherwise they are less powerful.
So many guns yet so much crime and violence. Electric chairs, lethal
injections, daily shootings there are still criminals. Doesn't that tell
you
something? Hint: Power brought about by fear doesn't work - Particulary
in
Post by Kenny Thomas
a
fucked up country like Amerika. See the only difference between pigs and
terrorists is that one is legal terrorism and one isn't. I wouldn't
anticipate people will respect you more as a law enforcement officer
than
Post by Kenny Thomas
as
john citizen because they won't, no matter how big your gun is.
So when will be seeing the TACEP armed forces out on the streets
liberating
the oppressed foreskins in operation dickcheese?
Josema
2003-08-05 16:18:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kenny Thomas
You can't buy handguns at walmart anywhere. They don't sell them and wont
recieve them for you either. The amunition can be bought there tho. I
honestly think there should be stricter regulations on guns! But just
because I think something, doesn't make it so.
--
"Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 09:30 PM by RichGans

Walmart Rules! I just bought the Browning HiPower 9mm I have wanted for
years, yesterday at my local gun shop. $579 plus tax! It was $10 more than
the Beretta 92FS, but hicaps are much cheaper($19), higher capacity(17 round
South African, and they work very well)at CDNN online. After surfing the net
and Shotgunnews for mags and ammo, I headed down to my local Walmart for
some range ammo, and to consider if buying by the case in 9mm was really
worth it. I was amazed! I expected to pay $7-8 for a box of UMC or whtever
new FMJ they had, just to hit the range and then purchase a case online.
Winchester had 100 round boxes of 115gr. FMJ with clean new reloadable brass
for $10.95/box. Thats cheaper than a good deal online or shotgunnews and I
had it right away, I paid taxes but not shipping, I was was sure of what I
was getting, and it broke down to $5.48/50 rounds. I bought 5 boxes for
target/testing, and breaking it in. 500 rounds, 1/2 case, $58 and change
with tax included. I was very impressed. Thanks Walmart. Thanks Winchester.
I will continue to be a loyal customer of your stores and products. Rich"


agree!
Added by Steven&Donna on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 9:46 PM
Walmart has done me right in reguards to the Winchester ammo. They
periodically restock this ammo too. I find it easier to stop in and pick
some up before heading for the hills then ordering a bulk crate.
Nice choice on the HP, I recently bought a Beretta Elite II in 9mm in
January. It's big for CCW, but I don't mind. I highly recommend it for
someone who dosn't mind the challenge of concealing a large frame handgun.
Magazines are pretty tough to pay for, not find. At least when it
comes to factory magazines. Gunbroker has tons of preban mags for sale. They
typically go for 35-50 dollars each. I recently picked up 3 Italian factory
mags for 120 dollars (free shipping). Hopefully Walmart keeps this sale up
for a long time. Usually I try to buy from local shops even if it costs a
little more, but this deal is tough to pass up. Buy all you can!
-Steve

Yes, they do
Added by Sigfan on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 9:52 PM
I bought 10 100 round boxes yesterday. You can't go wrong at
$10.96/box, that's for sure! I think I have about 1400 rounds in the
basement, should last me a few trips to the range :-)


Extracted from http://www.packing.org/news/article.jsp/6870/


Proud, Kenny?.

If I lived among such an insane and nutz guys I would migrate to
a civilized country


"Click to scroll to commentary.

"Gun sales stop at state Wal-Marts - Investigation found chain
sold firearms to convicted felons
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | April 5, 2003 | Robert Salladay


Posted on 04/05/2003 9:01 AM PST by Scoop


Sacramento -- Wal-Mart, """""""the nation's largest seller of
guns""""", agreed Friday to immediately halt the sale of firearms at its 118
California stores after an investigation by Attorney General Bill Lockyer
found numerous violations of state gun laws.

Lockyer said six Wal-Mart stores inspected by his office in the
Central Valley and Sacramento had violated state laws 490 times, including
two incidents where guns were sold to convicted felons. Along with numerous
paperwork errors, some guns were released before background checks were
finished or fingerprints were taken.

The state Department of Justice had threatened to shut down
Wal-Mart's California gun sales by Monday if they didn't voluntarily stop
selling firearms. Late Friday, after the company complied, Lockyer issued a
statement praising Wal-Mart for acting "promptly and responsibly."

But the fact that state investigators were able to find nearly
500 violations during one-day visits to a handful of Wal-Mart stores
suggested a systemic problem was occurring statewide, Lockyer spokeswoman
Hallye Jordan said. The inspections began March 18."



This means, Wallmart was SELLING guns as if they were Corn
Flakes until law convicted them with "something" irregular. They stop doing
this at March 2003. Look at the teens discussing above how they buy the ammo
and last gun models at Wallmart as if they were buying the last Britney
Spear's CD... really pathetic. In some wallmarts they are STILL selling the
remainings of ammo.

Now you can't buy at Wallmart, but can do at a hundred local
stores around you, and they don't almost ask questions. As a proof, Moore,
the Bowling for Columbine's director walked to a bank and got a winchester
for opening an account on a local bank, flawlessly walked by the city with
this rifle on his shoulder and bought the ammo on a barber shop while
shaving.

This is "your right", and you told I must not think USA is still
the Wild west?...naaaah!

Get more information about the movie you SHOULD watch and the
info you should know at:

http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/home.php


Remember I always know what I am talking about, Kenny.

Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-07 20:58:13 UTC
Permalink
Excuse me then...of the Walmarts I have been to and after speaking to the
clearks there I was informed they do not sell handguns because it is
against
company policy...maybe they changed their policy...because they don't sell
them here...I asked.
--
N.P., it's O.K.

Cheers,
Josema
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 02:04:00 UTC
Permalink
WoW!!!
TWO whole felons...and this is while depending on the State of
California's and the BATF's own verification system. Is that really
enough to deprive a whole population of the Constitutional right to
defend themselves and their homes?
Post by Josema
Post by Kenny Thomas
You can't buy handguns at walmart anywhere. They don't sell them and wont
recieve them for you either. The amunition can be bought there tho. I
honestly think there should be stricter regulations on guns! But just
because I think something, doesn't make it so.
--
"Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 09:30 PM by RichGans
Walmart Rules! I just bought the Browning HiPower 9mm I have wanted for
years, yesterday at my local gun shop. $579 plus tax! It was $10 more than
the Beretta 92FS, but hicaps are much cheaper($19), higher capacity(17 round
South African, and they work very well)at CDNN online. After surfing the net
and Shotgunnews for mags and ammo, I headed down to my local Walmart for
some range ammo, and to consider if buying by the case in 9mm was really
worth it. I was amazed! I expected to pay $7-8 for a box of UMC or whtever
new FMJ they had, just to hit the range and then purchase a case online.
Winchester had 100 round boxes of 115gr. FMJ with clean new reloadable brass
for $10.95/box. Thats cheaper than a good deal online or shotgunnews and I
had it right away, I paid taxes but not shipping, I was was sure of what I
was getting, and it broke down to $5.48/50 rounds. I bought 5 boxes for
target/testing, and breaking it in. 500 rounds, 1/2 case, $58 and change
with tax included. I was very impressed. Thanks Walmart. Thanks Winchester.
I will continue to be a loyal customer of your stores and products. Rich"
agree!
Added by Steven&Donna on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 9:46 PM
Walmart has done me right in reguards to the Winchester ammo. They
periodically restock this ammo too. I find it easier to stop in and pick
some up before heading for the hills then ordering a bulk crate.
Nice choice on the HP, I recently bought a Beretta Elite II in 9mm in
January. It's big for CCW, but I don't mind. I highly recommend it for
someone who dosn't mind the challenge of concealing a large frame handgun.
Magazines are pretty tough to pay for, not find. At least when it
comes to factory magazines. Gunbroker has tons of preban mags for sale. They
typically go for 35-50 dollars each. I recently picked up 3 Italian factory
mags for 120 dollars (free shipping). Hopefully Walmart keeps this sale up
for a long time. Usually I try to buy from local shops even if it costs a
little more, but this deal is tough to pass up. Buy all you can!
-Steve
Yes, they do
Added by Sigfan on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 9:52 PM
I bought 10 100 round boxes yesterday. You can't go wrong at
$10.96/box, that's for sure! I think I have about 1400 rounds in the
basement, should last me a few trips to the range :-)
Extracted from http://www.packing.org/news/article.jsp/6870/
Proud, Kenny?.
If I lived among such an insane and nutz guys I would migrate to
a civilized country
"Click to scroll to commentary.
"Gun sales stop at state Wal-Marts - Investigation found chain
sold firearms to convicted felons
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | April 5, 2003 | Robert Salladay
Posted on 04/05/2003 9:01 AM PST by Scoop
Sacramento -- Wal-Mart, """""""the nation's largest seller of
guns""""", agreed Friday to immediately halt the sale of firearms at its 118
California stores after an investigation by Attorney General Bill Lockyer
found numerous violations of state gun laws.
Lockyer said six Wal-Mart stores inspected by his office in the
Central Valley and Sacramento had violated state laws 490 times, including
two incidents where guns were sold to convicted felons. Along with numerous
paperwork errors, some guns were released before background checks were
finished or fingerprints were taken.
The state Department of Justice had threatened to shut down
Wal-Mart's California gun sales by Monday if they didn't voluntarily stop
selling firearms. Late Friday, after the company complied, Lockyer issued a
statement praising Wal-Mart for acting "promptly and responsibly."
But the fact that state investigators were able to find nearly
500 violations during one-day visits to a handful of Wal-Mart stores
suggested a systemic problem was occurring statewide, Lockyer spokeswoman
Hallye Jordan said. The inspections began March 18."
This means, Wallmart was SELLING guns as if they were Corn
Flakes until law convicted them with "something" irregular. They stop doing
this at March 2003. Look at the teens discussing above how they buy the ammo
and last gun models at Wallmart as if they were buying the last Britney
Spear's CD... really pathetic. In some wallmarts they are STILL selling the
remainings of ammo.
Now you can't buy at Wallmart, but can do at a hundred local
stores around you, and they don't almost ask questions. As a proof, Moore,
the Bowling for Columbine's director walked to a bank and got a winchester
for opening an account on a local bank, flawlessly walked by the city with
this rifle on his shoulder and bought the ammo on a barber shop while
shaving.
This is "your right", and you told I must not think USA is still
the Wild west?...naaaah!
Get more information about the movie you SHOULD watch and the
http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/home.php
Remember I always know what I am talking about, Kenny.
Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-08 14:59:28 UTC
Permalink
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WoW!!!
TWO whole felons...and this is while depending on the State of
California's and the BATF's own verification system. Is that really
enough to deprive a whole population of the Constitutional right to
defend themselves and their homes?


This continues being a ridiculous "Constitutional right" that, as usual,
Merkins apply with extreme exageration, hysteria and overstimation due their
extreme fear about everything.

Cheers,
josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-08 19:48:12 UTC
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Josema go spend a night in the LA Projects and see how long it takes you to
go to the nearest B&B to buy a handgun.
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WoW!!!
TWO whole felons...and this is while depending on the State of
California's and the BATF's own verification system. Is that really
enough to deprive a whole population of the Constitutional right to
defend themselves and their homes?
This continues being a ridiculous "Constitutional right" that, as usual,
Merkins apply with extreme exageration, hysteria and overstimation due their
extreme fear about everything.
Cheers,
josema
Josema
2003-08-08 21:46:11 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Josema go spend a night in the LA Projects and see how long it takes you to
go to the nearest B&B to buy a handgun.
Yes, I supposse the cycle of violence has even peaceful people to have to
buy a gun :(. This is that you are used to, but you must admit this is
sad...sad and unusual out of USA.

Only curiosity, what are LA Projects?

Cheers,
Josema
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 02:05:17 UTC
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And Sam Walton is spinning in his grave.
Excuse me then...of the Walmarts I have been to and after speaking to the
clearks there I was informed they do not sell handguns because it is against
company policy...maybe they changed their policy...because they don't sell
them here...I asked.
Ocenturian35
2003-08-08 07:54:13 UTC
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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:05:17
And Sam Walton is spinning in his grave.
So true. The craven, spinless board of walmarts caved into the anti second
ammendment crowd, and the remnants of the sixties. BTW the UK, and all of
Europe suffer from what you term hot breakings IE when the residents are most
likely to be home because they know their country has prohibitive laws banning
handguns.
One instance of hipocrasy is Maddona getting a handgun license in the UK after
her home was vandalized by soccer hooligans, here bodygaurds LOL were not
allowed to carry firearms in the UK. So a throng of Wembly FC hooligans marched
off with millions of dollars worth of her art.
The English bobbie's LOL they ran from the fotball hooligans as they were armed
with knives, bats, maltove cocktails, bricks etc.
At least in the USA the crime and death rates are mainly drugdealers killing
other drugdealers over territory to ply their dirty trade!!!!!!!!!
What seperates Americans from Europeans is that Americans that are law abiding
citizens may possess firearms to enforce their right to self defense. I guess
six million Jews and nine million Ukranians
And Messgr. Hitler and Stalin have taught Europeans nothing?
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 01:59:21 UTC
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Post by Kenny Thomas
You can't buy handguns at walmart anywhere. They don't sell them and wont
recieve them for you either. The amunition can be bought there tho. I
honestly think there should be stricter regulations on guns! But just
because I think something, doesn't make it so.
Kenny, where is your head at?
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books nationwide in the U.S.
Firearms are the most regulated commodity in the U.S. Increased
regulation in this country since 1922 has only resulted in increased in
increased violence against an unsuspecting community that believe that
they are doing the right thing by proliferating gun regulations.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-08 19:57:42 UTC
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The reason I think regulations should be greater is from my own personal
experience. Lemme tell you the story of my gun buying trip and you tell me
what you think.

I went to a gun dealer without a permit and asked if they had a Glock 22.
They did. A few weeks later after selling my old car, I called the sheriff,
this is what the conversation sounded like:

Sherriff's Office: "Sherriff's Office, can I help you?"
Me: "Yes maam, I am interested in purchasing a handgun and was curious as to
how I go about doing it."
SO: "Do you live in Cedar County?"
Me: "Yes"
SO: "And how long have you lived in Cedar County?"
Me: "About 6 or 7 years."
SO: "Okay, the permit will cost you $5 dollars and you will have to fill out
an application"
Me: "Okay, how does the waiting period work for the permit? How many days
will I need to wait before I get the permit?"
SO: "None, we can get it for you in about 15 minutes"
Me: "Oh...okay, I'll be there shortly"

So I went to the sherriff's office and filled out the questionaire which
basically consisted of my name, Citizen Number, address, phone number and
rediculous questions like "Are you a convicted felon?" with a yes or no
check box. I filled the form out, handed it back and she went to get a
ticket book, filled part of it out, made me sign it and gave me a paper and
said "This is your permit, when you buy your gun give it to the dealer and
he will mail it back to me" and I asked if I need a permit to carry it or to
even have it, and she said "No, just to buy it."

So that same day I went to the gun dealer and bought my gun. I got my
permit, the gun and was home armed with a gun and ammunition within about an
hour and a half. Now, I am all for making buying stuff easy, but this was a
little too easy. The sheriff's office never asked to see any form of ID,
nothing. For all they know I could have lied through my teeth. Who is to say
that Psycho Billy Bob the Bank Robber couldn't go in and lie and get a
permit and a gun? I think there should be a MANDITORY waiting period, a
required criminal background search, a photo ID etc... Right now they don't
exist...at least not here.
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Post by Kenny Thomas
You can't buy handguns at walmart anywhere. They don't sell them and wont
recieve them for you either. The amunition can be bought there tho. I
honestly think there should be stricter regulations on guns! But just
because I think something, doesn't make it so.
Kenny, where is your head at?
There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books nationwide in the U.S.
Firearms are the most regulated commodity in the U.S. Increased
regulation in this country since 1922 has only resulted in increased in
increased violence against an unsuspecting community that believe that
they are doing the right thing by proliferating gun regulations.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-09 03:45:29 UTC
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I find it hard you watched it. The movie hasn't even been released, and wont
be till the 19th. At least here in the USA its not.
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
The reason I think regulations should be greater is from my own personal
experience. Lemme tell you the story of my gun buying trip and you tell me
what you think.
I went to a gun dealer without a permit and asked if they had a Glock 22.
They did. A few weeks later after selling my old car, I called the
sheriff,
Post by Kenny Thomas
Sherriff's Office: "Sherriff's Office, can I help you?"
Me: "Yes maam, I am interested in purchasing a handgun and was curious
as
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
how I go about doing it."
SO: "Do you live in Cedar County?"
Me: "Yes"
SO: "And how long have you lived in Cedar County?"
Me: "About 6 or 7 years."
SO: "Okay, the permit will cost you $5 dollars and you will have to fill
out
Post by Kenny Thomas
an application"
Me: "Okay, how does the waiting period work for the permit? How many days
will I need to wait before I get the permit?"
SO: "None, we can get it for you in about 15 minutes"
Me: "Oh...okay, I'll be there shortly"
So I went to the sherriff's office and filled out the questionaire which
basically consisted of my name, Citizen Number, address, phone number and
rediculous questions like "Are you a convicted felon?" with a yes or no
check box. I filled the form out, handed it back and she went to get a
ticket book, filled part of it out, made me sign it and gave me a paper
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
said "This is your permit, when you buy your gun give it to the dealer and
he will mail it back to me" and I asked if I need a permit to carry it
or
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
even have it, and she said "No, just to buy it."
So that same day I went to the gun dealer and bought my gun. I got my
permit, the gun and was home armed with a gun and ammunition within
about
Post by Kenny Thomas
an
Post by Kenny Thomas
hour and a half. Now, I am all for making buying stuff easy, but this
was
Post by Kenny Thomas
a
Post by Kenny Thomas
little too easy. The sheriff's office never asked to see any form of ID,
nothing. For all they know I could have lied through my teeth. Who is to
say
Post by Kenny Thomas
that Psycho Billy Bob the Bank Robber couldn't go in and lie and get a
permit and a gun? I think there should be a MANDITORY waiting period, a
required criminal background search, a photo ID etc... Right now they
don't
Post by Kenny Thomas
exist...at least not here.
Did you watch the movie Bowling for Columbine?. Moore denounces everything
you mentioned above, how ridiculously easy is for EVERYBODY, felon or
decent
Post by Kenny Thomas
citizen, sane or insane, to buy a gun everywhere. This is the greatest
American movie I watched ever.
Cheers,
Josema
W
2003-08-09 14:50:11 UTC
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Kenny needs a friend desperately. Only kenny would continue talking with jarri
the pedophile. What is next, exchanging photos of jarries latest victim.
Post by Kenny Thomas
I find it hard you watched it. The movie hasn't even been released, and wont
be till the 19th. At least here in the USA its not.
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
The reason I think regulations should be greater is from my own personal
experience. Lemme tell you the story of my gun buying trip and you tell
me
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
what you think.
I went to a gun dealer without a permit and asked if they had a Glock
22.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
They did. A few weeks later after selling my old car, I called the
sheriff,
Post by Kenny Thomas
Sherriff's Office: "Sherriff's Office, can I help you?"
Me: "Yes maam, I am interested in purchasing a handgun and was curious
as
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
how I go about doing it."
SO: "Do you live in Cedar County?"
Me: "Yes"
SO: "And how long have you lived in Cedar County?"
Me: "About 6 or 7 years."
SO: "Okay, the permit will cost you $5 dollars and you will have to fill
out
Post by Kenny Thomas
an application"
Me: "Okay, how does the waiting period work for the permit? How many
days
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
will I need to wait before I get the permit?"
SO: "None, we can get it for you in about 15 minutes"
Me: "Oh...okay, I'll be there shortly"
So I went to the sherriff's office and filled out the questionaire which
basically consisted of my name, Citizen Number, address, phone number
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
rediculous questions like "Are you a convicted felon?" with a yes or no
check box. I filled the form out, handed it back and she went to get a
ticket book, filled part of it out, made me sign it and gave me a paper
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
said "This is your permit, when you buy your gun give it to the dealer
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
he will mail it back to me" and I asked if I need a permit to carry it
or
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
even have it, and she said "No, just to buy it."
So that same day I went to the gun dealer and bought my gun. I got my
permit, the gun and was home armed with a gun and ammunition within
about
Post by Kenny Thomas
an
Post by Kenny Thomas
hour and a half. Now, I am all for making buying stuff easy, but this
was
Post by Kenny Thomas
a
Post by Kenny Thomas
little too easy. The sheriff's office never asked to see any form of ID,
nothing. For all they know I could have lied through my teeth. Who is to
say
Post by Kenny Thomas
that Psycho Billy Bob the Bank Robber couldn't go in and lie and get a
permit and a gun? I think there should be a MANDITORY waiting period, a
required criminal background search, a photo ID etc... Right now they
don't
Post by Kenny Thomas
exist...at least not here.
Did you watch the movie Bowling for Columbine?. Moore denounces everything
you mentioned above, how ridiculously easy is for EVERYBODY, felon or
decent
Post by Kenny Thomas
citizen, sane or insane, to buy a gun everywhere. This is the greatest
American movie I watched ever.
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-09 21:49:13 UTC
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I got pleanty of friends. There is nothing wrong with speaking with him
either. I've talked to worse people I'm sure. Besides, as far as I know you
and everyone else are full of it and he isn't a peadophile. But I don't
know, and until someone proves it to me or he does something to prove he is
a peadophile, he isn't.
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Post by W
Kenny needs a friend desperately. Only kenny would continue talking with jarri
the pedophile. What is next, exchanging photos of jarries latest victim.
Post by Kenny Thomas
I find it hard you watched it. The movie hasn't even been released, and wont
be till the 19th. At least here in the USA its not.
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Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
The reason I think regulations should be greater is from my own personal
experience. Lemme tell you the story of my gun buying trip and you tell
me
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
what you think.
I went to a gun dealer without a permit and asked if they had a Glock
22.
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
They did. A few weeks later after selling my old car, I called the
sheriff,
Post by Kenny Thomas
Sherriff's Office: "Sherriff's Office, can I help you?"
Me: "Yes maam, I am interested in purchasing a handgun and was curious
as
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
how I go about doing it."
SO: "Do you live in Cedar County?"
Me: "Yes"
SO: "And how long have you lived in Cedar County?"
Me: "About 6 or 7 years."
SO: "Okay, the permit will cost you $5 dollars and you will have to fill
out
Post by Kenny Thomas
an application"
Me: "Okay, how does the waiting period work for the permit? How many
days
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
will I need to wait before I get the permit?"
SO: "None, we can get it for you in about 15 minutes"
Me: "Oh...okay, I'll be there shortly"
So I went to the sherriff's office and filled out the questionaire which
basically consisted of my name, Citizen Number, address, phone number
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
rediculous questions like "Are you a convicted felon?" with a yes or no
check box. I filled the form out, handed it back and she went to get a
ticket book, filled part of it out, made me sign it and gave me a paper
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
said "This is your permit, when you buy your gun give it to the dealer
and
Post by Kenny Thomas
Post by Kenny Thomas
he will mail it back to me" and I asked if I need a permit to carry it
or
Post by Kenny Thomas
to
Post by Kenny Thomas
even have it, and she said "No, just to buy it."
So that same day I went to the gun dealer and bought my gun. I got my
permit, the gun and was home armed with a gun and ammunition within
about
Post by Kenny Thomas
an
Post by Kenny Thomas
hour and a half. Now, I am all for making buying stuff easy, but this
was
Post by Kenny Thomas
a
Post by Kenny Thomas
little too easy. The sheriff's office never asked to see any form of ID,
nothing. For all they know I could have lied through my teeth. Who is to
say
Post by Kenny Thomas
that Psycho Billy Bob the Bank Robber couldn't go in and lie and get a
permit and a gun? I think there should be a MANDITORY waiting period, a
required criminal background search, a photo ID etc... Right now they
don't
Post by Kenny Thomas
exist...at least not here.
Did you watch the movie Bowling for Columbine?. Moore denounces everything
you mentioned above, how ridiculously easy is for EVERYBODY, felon or
decent
Post by Kenny Thomas
citizen, sane or insane, to buy a gun everywhere. This is the greatest
American movie I watched ever.
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-09 21:46:00 UTC
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Oh, I thought since it was an independant film it wasn't in theatres...hmmm
maybe it was here, dunno.
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Post by Kenny Thomas
I find it hard you watched it. The movie hasn't even been released, and
wont
Post by Kenny Thomas
be till the 19th. At least here in the USA its not.
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It was released on theaters, Kenny. It was a success during months here.
Perhaps on USA this movie was censored and was not displayed?...Censorship
is a very common thing at USA, where free press, the whole World knows,
doesn't exist, it's everything controlled by your government and the tie
the
"patriotism" cheat means.
Read about the movie on the link I gave you, this has been displaying here
for almost a year now.
Look I am not cheating, this link will show you Spanish theathers are
still
http://www.telentrada.com/CDA/TelEntrada/Ficha_espectaculo/ficha_espectaculo
/0,2123,3a1b2c3dfg6491hijkl,00.html
I see you don't follow the links given to you, no worth talking to you. I
gave you two links explaining you the Guantanamo affair and it seems you
ignored them, and I sent you a Bowling's for columbine link and ignored
this
too, because if you clicked on that you should have been seen at
http://www.fandango.com/movie_page.asp?mv=47234 this movie has been
displaying at USA since October 11, 2002!!!!!
Kenny, sincerely, if you wanna be a law enforcer you should care a little
bit about your own information, you look sooooo misinformed about
eveything
that surrounds you. An ignorant man is a dangerous and ineffective man,
look
at the disaster your misinformed and trigger happy marines are doing at
Irak...your idiotic marines are not even able to learn to say "stop" in
arab, so they gun the civilians who don't understand the word "stop" and
fullstop. Look how yesterday they gunned two children and four inocent
by-passing civilians on a market, yeah!, the wild wild west effect all
around, Merkins like bullets going and coming when they shit on their
pants...no matters civilians can be victims or not, human life other than
Merkins always worthed a shit for Uncle Sam and his mercenaries. look at
Vietnam. Moore told this, Merkins are really cowards, the most coward
nation
on Earth. I think Bin Laden said this too. Look what they conquered...only
poor third world, unarmed nations to set an example. Why don't you try to
conquer Korea?...because you know they really HAVE an army and weapons and
they can nuke your delicate Merkin asses?...Irak was invaded because
supposedly they had nuclear weapons. Korea HAS for sure, so why don't you
invade Korea?...no oil at Korea?...has Korea the capability of
self-defense
Irak or Afghanistan didn't have?. Look at the "heros", they are just
bullies
and abusers, World resource thiefs applyying that you said on a previous
message: "best way to enslavish people is to unarm them", that's exactly
that Merkinland is trying to do...nobody with guns and resources except
Merkiland.
Like private Lynch...your media telling she was an hero captured when his
last bullet was out on a fierce combat and it was really a girl pissing
and
crying when his humvee crashed who was very nicely cared and cured by
responsible and well hearthed Irakians...don't you remember the "show" of
its rescue, "doing everything that it takes to save an Amerikan life" and
40
"Rambos" performing the ridiculous show when really they knew not an enemy
soldier on two milles?. Simply a pair of soldiers peacefully walking
inside
the main Hospital entrance would have been more than enough, but Merkins
needed to show the show to feed Merkin ego. Then the crying girl and the
acting marines became national "heros", so easy to cheat Merkin population
"beyond the infinite".
LOL!.
The whole world is still laughing, it was on every Newspaper as soon as
the
lies and the fake were discovered. This was not a surprise...who believes
that USA tells?, only fools do.
Luckily Merkin lies are always, soon or later, discovered.
What can you expect then?...you can expect only the next image on that
new...irakians dancing and happy in front of a burning Merkin truck and
probably a pair of Merkin mercenaries on the floor with their brain out of
the head . Merkins are specialists on harvesting hate everywhere they go
due
their dumb and irresponsible actions. The responsibles of these civilian
deaths or the bombing with Napalm will never be judged or even talked bad.
Arrogance, arrogance, more arrogance and more power, ignorance, arrogance
and power. Gun is the master, word is secondary, exactly like it was on
the
wild wild west you mentioned. Shoot first, ask later...if a civilian or a
child dies this doesn't matter, they were foreigners, Uncle will say
nothing, will reward you as an hero, it was done for "Amerikan safety".
This
is the American hand and way of doing. Every tyrannical empire had a sad
collapse, and Amerika is reaching its own fast, fast, fast!...
Sad to see all this information is censored and filtered so you don't know
Merkin crimes that lead to the hate you receive. Your marines have always
been the biggest criminals all around the World, starting by the free
repugnant option of invading every place on the planet they want to,
despising governments, laws, frontiers and Human lifes, this is the reason
your government refused the International Court laws, if you accepted
International Court rules Bush and its mercenaries would be jailed by ONU
troops because repeated crimes against Human kind. The present danger at
Earth it's USA, not Irak or Iran or Korea. And unefficient...once
conquered
you don't have the brain to gain the people's hearth, to mount an
elemental
democracy or even to keep order, then what the hell is your empire useful
for?...at least Romans created democracies and kept order.
No good on your actions, always evil, only evil, blood and gold and oil.
You
never work for Human kind as Mazeproxy told, you always work for yourself,
for your own benefict. Your flag should be yellow and black and red, not
blue and white. But when the rest of the World or your own economical
collapse unarmed you as Hitler was unarmed your flag will only have a
this will be white, and you will pay the price of an evil government and a
Constitution that was not able to limit the power and evil of this
government.
http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=5&idioma=CAS&idnotici
a_PK=62549&idseccio_PK=7&h=030809
Cheers,
Josema
Serialpest
2003-08-10 20:17:29 UTC
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Planning something similar are we?
I intend to watch it, I'm eagerly awaiting the 19th release date, I've
wanted to see it for quite some time.
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LOL!!!...I recommend you, Kenny, to watch this and other clips to see what
is "Bowling for Columbine" great movie about.
http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/clips/index.php
Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-02 08:42:10 UTC
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On 2/8/03 11:48 AM, in article
Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
Constitutions are not set in concrete, they can be amended but with the
powerful gun lobby and their links to the republican party (terrorists)
this
will never happen. Amerika is not a free country. You cannot call someone
a
nigger or a kike or a gook without being sued. Hell you can't even board a
plane with a nail file any more. Quoting me police public relations
department propaganda with dodgy statistics will not help your cause. One
only needs to watch an Amerikan news broadcast of the police trying to
subdue someone after a robbery or a car chase to know how fucked up their
ideology is. 20 guns pointed at someone who is unarmed like they need
every
one of them to stop him getting away shouting "get down on the ground!" Oh
Please.
LOL!...did you see the images featuring the "brave" marines shooting
civilian cars that simply didn't understand english and stopping peaceful
Iraki trials with bayonets on their guns?. BAYONETS!!!!. The image is so
nice...twenty marines with full equipment and dark glasses with bayonets
pointing three old men and two children on a peaceful trial (6-7 humvees and
a pair of tanks behind them armed and ready in the case the old men asking
for work and food had a nuclear weapon behind their pants... ). So nice the
image was all around the World showing up the Amerikan "bravery". I am sure
Amerikan press censored this and much much other images like this.

Thanks God the daily dead of Amerikan invaders can't be hided, no matter how
many weapons they have they always find someone who had less weapons but a
bigger bravery.

Guns only help to disguise men's cowardness, gives power to latent arrogance
and evil, no more no less.

Once on life I agree with you, Serial.

Cheers,
Josema
FitzHerbert
2003-08-02 16:03:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
Constitutions are not set in concrete, they can be amended but with the
powerful gun lobby and their links to the republican party (terrorists) this
will never happen. Amerika is not a free country. You cannot call someone a
nigger or a kike or a gook without being sued. Hell you can't even board a
plane with a nail file any more. Quoting me police public relations
department propaganda with dodgy statistics will not help your cause. One
only needs to watch an Amerikan news broadcast of the police trying to
subdue someone after a robbery or a car chase to know how fucked up their
ideology is. 20 guns pointed at someone who is unarmed like they need every
one of them to stop him getting away shouting "get down on the ground!" Oh
Please.
Yes, to an outsider America [sic] certainly seems to be something of a
police state. Did you know that in Florida, the Filth can raid your
trailer and imprison you for doing nothing more than your missus up
the gary?

The irony is that the Merkins moan about how Islamic countries have no
civil rights.

Furthermore the gun fixation is very worrying. I remember reading an
article where they said over 75% of Merkin gun-owners use their gun
for (anal) masturbation at least once in their lives. And this was a
nation-wide survey, I believe, not just in Texas.

The Cult of Gun as Phallus is truly bizarre. I mean what kind of sick
mentality confuses an organ of creation with an instrument of death in
the first place?

Have you been to alt.talk.guns?


Hope this helps,
Neville
Jigsaw1695
2003-08-02 18:38:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by FitzHerbert
On 2/8/03 11:48 AM, in article
Post by Kenny Thomas
I agree! I don't think that giving officers guns gets them more respect.
However, the US Constitution states specifically that all the residents are
allowed to carry fire arms. Since anyone can carry guns that also means that
guns have to be readilly accessable for sale, and if they are accessable for
sale that means that criminals (even those not allowed to have guns) can get
them easier. And since the criminals are able to be armed, the law
enforcement officials also need to be armed as well. I'm not saying that
having a gun gives you absolute power, or makes you "super cop" but what I
am saying is that if John Doe has a gun, and John Doe goes and robs a bank
and the police are called those police that show up better have a gun too
otherwise they will be standing out there doing nothing more than hiding
from the guy with the gun while he gets away. Surely that's not what the
people who just got robbed want.
While the number of deaths in the USA by gunfire is an alarming rate, much
higher than ANY other country, these deaths are not the cause of law
enforcement, but of private citizens.
Should the citizens of the USA have their gun powers taken away? No, I don't
think so. Should they be more regulated? Definately! Should guns sellers be
held responsible for the gun they sell to a criminal? Most certainly! But
the United States is a free country...part of that freedom is the freedom to
carry a gun. So if someone asks is freedom actually free? No way! The United
States pays for their freedom to carry a gun, the 11,000 that die every year
by gunfire in the USA is the price the country pays for their right to
carry.
But, the whole idea behind law enforcement carrying a firearm in the USA is
to level the playing field. But only 1 out of 50 officers will unholster
their weapon with the intent to use it, and of those 1 in 50, only 1 in 100
will actually fire it, and of that only 1 in 1000 will cause a death. Police
arent to blame for gun violence, if anything they are there to try to
control it and if possible prevent it and at the minimum reduce it.
Constitutions are not set in concrete, they can be amended but with the
powerful gun lobby and their links to the republican party (terrorists) this
will never happen. Amerika is not a free country. You cannot call someone a
nigger or a kike or a gook without being sued. Hell you can't even board a
plane with a nail file any more. Quoting me police public relations
department propaganda with dodgy statistics will not help your cause. One
only needs to watch an Amerikan news broadcast of the police trying to
subdue someone after a robbery or a car chase to know how fucked up their
ideology is. 20 guns pointed at someone who is unarmed like they need every
one of them to stop him getting away shouting "get down on the ground!" Oh
Please.
Yes, to an outsider America [sic] certainly seems to be something of a
police state. Did you know that in Florida, the Filth can raid your
trailer and imprison you for doing nothing more than your missus up
the gary?
The irony is that the Merkins moan about how Islamic countries have no
civil rights.
Furthermore the gun fixation is very worrying. I remember reading an
article where they said over 75% of Merkin gun-owners use their gun
for (anal) masturbation at least once in their lives. And this was a
nation-wide survey, I believe, not just in Texas.
The Cult of Gun as Phallus is truly bizarre. I mean what kind of sick
mentality confuses an organ of creation with an instrument of death in
the first place?
Have you been to alt.talk.guns?
Hope this helps,
Neville
============================================================================
==

<<Sigh>> Jus another anti-gun nut.
Serialpest
2003-08-02 20:12:16 UTC
Permalink
On 3/8/03 2:03 AM, in article
Post by FitzHerbert
Yes, to an outsider America [sic] certainly seems to be something of a
police state. Did you know that in Florida, the Filth can raid your
trailer and imprison you for doing nothing more than your missus up
the gary?
The irony is that the Merkins moan about how Islamic countries have no
civil rights.
Furthermore the gun fixation is very worrying. I remember reading an
article where they said over 75% of Merkin gun-owners use their gun
for (anal) masturbation at least once in their lives. And this was a
nation-wide survey, I believe, not just in Texas.
Oh dear. That certainly adds new meaning to being shot up the ass. I'm sure
even Hugh Young would find that painful.
Post by FitzHerbert
The Cult of Gun as Phallus is truly bizarre. I mean what kind of sick
mentality confuses an organ of creation with an instrument of death in
the first place?
Have you been to alt.talk.guns?
Hope this helps,
Neville
Jigsaw1695
2003-08-02 21:31:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Serialpest
On 3/8/03 2:03 AM, in article
Post by FitzHerbert
Yes, to an outsider America [sic] certainly seems to be something of a
police state. Did you know that in Florida, the Filth can raid your
trailer and imprison you for doing nothing more than your missus up
the gary?
============================================================================
====

Oh really!??

I have lived in Florida for over thirty years I have never heard of any
instance as you have described. However, I have heard that the French are
quite fond of being rogered up their backside.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 01:51:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jigsaw1695
Post by FitzHerbert
Yes, to an outsider America [sic] certainly seems to be something of a
police state. Did you know that in Florida, the Filth can raid your
trailer and imprison you for doing nothing more than your missus up
the gary?
============================================================================
====
Oh really!??
I have lived in Florida for over thirty years I have never heard of any
instance as you have described.
Jiggy, anal sex is _illegal_ in Florida.
Sorry, dude, sorry that you're not up on Supreme Court rulings. The
Supremes have overturned all sodomy laws last month....and the decision
applies nationwide.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-02 21:37:56 UTC
Permalink
Oh, really???
Name more than one....and England is NOT one of them.
Post by Winding Highway
Date: 7/31/2003
I am proud of
my new gun, it's sharp looking, and is REQUIRED for my training. Even your
peace officers in Spain carry a weapon.
Spain is hardly a model for anything. Let us remember that most of the worlds
population live in societies where even the police do not normally carry guns.
FitzHerbert
2003-08-03 02:54:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Oh, really???
Name more than one....and England is NOT one of them.
Police in England do not normally carry guns.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Post by Winding Highway
Date: 7/31/2003
I am proud of
my new gun, it's sharp looking, and is REQUIRED for my training. Even your
peace officers in Spain carry a weapon.
Spain is hardly a model for anything. Let us remember that most of the worlds
population live in societies where even the police do not normally carry guns.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:37:01 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, I can vouch for that too...I've been and seen them, no weapons...least
none I saw anyways. I did see one with a blackjack though...a club of sorts,
but that's it.
Post by FitzHerbert
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Oh, really???
Name more than one....and England is NOT one of them.
Police in England do not normally carry guns.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Post by Winding Highway
Date: 7/31/2003
I am proud of
my new gun, it's sharp looking, and is REQUIRED for my training. Even your
peace officers in Spain carry a weapon.
Spain is hardly a model for anything. Let us remember that most of the worlds
population live in societies where even the police do not normally carry guns.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-08 02:17:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by FitzHerbert
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
Oh, really???
Name more than one....and England is NOT one of them.
Police in England do not normally carry guns.
Do not normally....?
What's that mean.
More and more bobby's are carring guns and police in vehicles all have
them locked in the trunk (boot) which almost assuredly means that
they're dead if they come under fire.
In 1774, England tried to disarm the Colonists, right down to their
pitchforks. Well, to make a long story short, we kicked their flabby
asses and adopted a Constitution which worldwide is the most admired
document in history and also defines a militia as every individual in
the country. If you don't believe it, just read the Federalist Papers
which was written by the signatories of The Constitution and defines
what the Bill Of Rights means to the citizen. The first ten Amendments,
more commonly referred to as the Bill Of Rights, are ALL individual
rights...NOT group, corporate, newspaper or any other kind of
rights...ONLY individual. And the right to bear arms is inviolable in
the greatest, most generous country in history, which has used it's
power most judiciously in order to benefit human kind.
Josema
2003-08-08 15:27:03 UTC
Permalink
. """"And the right to bear arms is inviolable in
the greatest, most generous country in history, which has used it's
power most judiciously in order to benefit human kind."""""
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!


RFTMLAO!!!!!!

"the greatest, most generous country in history, wich has used it's power
most judiciously in order to benefict human kind...(how tender, I think I
will cry right now..." was even using Napalm, (banned weapon) to burn alive
muslims.

The murders who burned alive Vietnam women and children "using their power
judiciously in order to benefict human kind (as "human kind" should be
understood "Amerikan richness and empire glory")", used banned weapons (not
to mention the racim and suffocative bombs) while trying to do this "in
order to fight against banned weapons".

http://www.nathannewman.org/log/archives/000878.shtml



Another more Merkin felony for the big collection.
Man, when will you understand while you are telling one thing but doing the
contrair NOBODY will take USA seriously and NOBODY will believe Merkin lies
anymore?.

It's not susprising a Merkin telling "No, we are not arrogant", but on next
paragraph adding the " we are the greatest, most generous country in
history, wich has used it's power most judiciously in order to benefict
human kind...) as you did...while ignoring your own government does the same
felonies they figure to fight and be free of.

Pathetic poor nutz Merkins...with their brain and human sensitivity and
sense of responsibility usually as cut as their dicks.

Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-08 21:58:20 UTC
Permalink
This is from a pedophile who lives in a third world hell hole.
Why don't you comment the contents of the message instead of trolling, you
no-brainer troll who lives on a first world hell hole?...


Cheers,
Josema
Winding Highway
2003-08-03 11:50:32 UTC
Permalink
Date: 8/2/2003
Oh, really???
Name more than one....and England is NOT one of them.
England IS one -- the police in England (and Ireland) do not normally carry
guns. Guns are issued only to special tactical units like the terrorist squad.
Ive never seen an English police officer with a gun, except at heathrow
airport. There are many other countries where the police do not normally carry
guns, including China, New Zealand, and most of the former communist countries
of cental and eastern europe.
M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
2003-08-02 21:26:25 UTC
Permalink
NOT a killing device...a protection device.
Civilised country???? You mean like Australia or the U.K. or any other
gun grabber country where the number of hot burglaries (Where the
residents have been home) have increased ten fold, or a thousand percent
since the guns have been collected and self protection has been
eliminated?
Post by Josema
This has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision, but I am telling
everyone (just cause I'm so happy about it) that I have my first gun! :D
You're insane if you have a killing device on your pocket and are so happy
about this you even give the new on a public Newsgroup...
Why don't you change your residence country instead of buying guns?. You
wouldn't need one if lived on a civilized country
http://www.alltel.net/~airboy/images/glock22/glock22-major-components-disass
embled.jpg
Cool huh? :P
A gun is never cool, you umbalanced!!!...
Cheers,
Josema
Josema
2003-08-04 16:51:09 UTC
Permalink
You filthy pedophile. Back to the sewer for you cockroach.
LOL!. I am not a pedophile just for criticising Amerika, but you, it's sure,
you're a TROLL, probably a MERKIN CIRCUMCISED AND PROMUTILATION TROLL,
unable to offer a conversation other than the same rancid and typical
insult. Man, where is your creativity?...better...where is your
BRAIN?...LOL...was circumcised with your foreskin?...

And you back to your own sewer, the Killfilter.

Bye, bye!

Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:39:17 UTC
Permalink
FYI - A burglary is just someone entering your house without
permission...nothing has to be taken, just broken into...A robbery is when
something is stolen, you can actually be charged with both crimes, burglary
and robbery are totally different... :)
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
NOT a killing device...a protection device.
Civilised country???? You mean like Australia or the U.K. or any other
gun grabber country where the number of hot burglaries (Where the
residents have been home) have increased ten fold,
First, "hot burglaries" are such a big crime this is not usually reported
at
Spain because this simply doesn't exist. Burglaries are commited when
people
are not at home because they are on trip or at work, and on this situation
it doesn't matter the house owner had a dozen guns at home or not. So, can
you demonstrate that "ten fold hot burglaries increase or a thousand
percent
at Australia or U.K.?. Your statment was ridiculous and absolutely an
invention unless you give details and sources. And mainly, how can you
demonstrate this supposed increase has to do with the absence of firearms
at
private homes?.
Post by M***@proxy1.brunei.bn
or a thousand percent
since the guns have been collected and self protection has been
eliminated?
Second, I don't know at U.K. or Australia, at Spain guns have never been
collected for the simple reason they were never allowed. You pay taxes,
you
live on a civilized society, so it's your government who is supposed to
protect your interests and properties, not oneself as if this was a
jungle.
If you don't trust your justice, your police and your government and army,
please, better stop paying taxes and go and live on a desert forest
(pointing your rifle through your wooden window just to be ready in the
case
somebody came to robb you...)
Third, how is it you say "self protection has been eliminated".?. How?
Look man, if on your crazy country it's usual a folk with an automatic gun
to enter your house in order to robb your sockets pointing you with a gun,
in other countries this is NOT usual.
Cheers,
Josema
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-01 01:43:52 UTC
Permalink
Actually yes, I do plan on taking it to school. When I am at college the gun
will be checked in with the Department of Public Safety, the Criminal
Justice Education Department and the local sheriff. The weapon will then be
stored at the CMSU firing range in a non-functioning state until I decide to
take target practice at the range or I decide to check the weapon out.

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Your really an Amerikan now Kenny. Do you take it to school with you
Kenny?
Or do you just hold it wishing your own weapon was of equal calibre?
Praying for your recovery.
Winding Highway
2003-08-03 10:58:02 UTC
Permalink
Date: 8/1/2003
The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people
Actually, people with guns kill people.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-05 01:17:47 UTC
Permalink
Yes, but if you sit in a room with a gun you aren't going to get killed
necessarily, it takes a finger to pull the trigger.
Post by Winding Highway
Date: 8/1/2003
The gun doesn't kill people, people
kill people
Actually, people with guns kill people.
Winding Highway
2003-08-03 11:18:56 UTC
Permalink
Date: 8/2/2003
If you have ever read the Federalist Papers, which was written by the
formers and signers of the Constitution, you would then know that the
"Militia" is constituted of every citizen of the country.
Well... the federalist papers were written by SOME of the formers and signers
of the constitution. And to them, a citizen was a white male - the idea of
black americans toting firearms would have horrified them. In practice, even
gun nuts accept that there is no right for "every citizen" to own a gun --
among others, convicted felons and certified lunatics are generally not allowed
to have them. Of course, in a society saturated with guns, felons and lunatics
have no problem arming themselves.
Winding Highway
2003-08-05 16:27:57 UTC
Permalink
Date: 8/5/2003
One of the reasons Franco attacked Spain was the Republican
Constitution, that was being built, gave liberties and self-Parliaments to
the Spanish regions
Franco didnt "attack Spain." He fought on the fascist side of the Spanish
civil war. He won.
Giving independence to an
Spanish region should be against Constitution. Everybody accepted
Constitution when this was done, so this means this is not broken so this
has not to be fixed.
Wasnt Josema-Jarri complaining about the US constitution being set in stone
just a few posts ago? Indeed he was! But now, apparently, there can be no
self determination for the Basques because "giving independence to an Spanish
reason should be against the constitution." Tough on the Basques, though.
How can you explain the Florida fiasco during last elections, then?
The florida fiasco, despite the unfortunate outcome of a blithering doofus as
president, was conducted according to the constitution and produced a
constitutionally unassailable result. The president may not have received a
majority of the votes cast -- but then in Europe, with its multi-party systems,
the leading party and the prime minister it produces rarely command a majority
of votes at a general election either. Josema-Jarri seems quite unaware of
this.
USA is disarming Irak and is pouring his efforts
to disarm everybody
I wish this were true. But actually the US is leaving Iraqis with sidearms and
in some cases automatic weapons. The US is seizing RPGs, explosives, etc.,
from the Iraqis. If there really were any WMDS, then of course the US would
grab them too. Meanwhile, the US is the major arms supplier to the rest of the
world. Far from disarming the globe, the US is recklessly arming it.
Can't you see from the beginning to the end Amerika is full of
contradictions, double standards and falsehoods?.
Josema-Jarri has a point there. But thats not the whole story, or even most
of the story. He overlooks the extraordinary idealism and optimism of American
society -- two virtues almost unknown in cynical, backward-looking Europe.
Meanwhile, why is Josema-Jarri so purblind to the faults of Spain?
Shame on you, Kenny, Tons of shame on you, little irresponsible piece of
adopted Merkin.....
you
should never take this as a personal attack. I attack ideas, not people
Oh.
Can't you see?, I always talk when I know what I am talking about.
Oh.
DarrinT68
2003-08-06 23:07:59 UTC
Permalink
This admission by Kenny is so frighteningly hilarious, I don't even have to
respond!ehe It writes itself!eh -D, NYC "The Egg Cream is psychologically the
opposite of circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness" - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, sweet NYC Jew - ingenious comedic legend, filmmaker,
actor, producer, writer)
DarrinT68
2003-08-08 06:10:01 UTC
Permalink
Subject: Re: My Glock 22!!! :D
Date: 8/7/03 10:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Poor old big, greasy nosed darrin is one of those people that listened>to
Mayor DINKUS who, when someone was stabbed on the subway, appeared at>a press
conference with his stupid plastic fireman's hat stating that>the incident was
a reason for increased gun control. >Pathetic.
Leftists, Progressives, Communists will never learn that they
are>philosophically bankrupt. >

Considering that I was the one who coined the term, "Doofy Dinkins," (LOL) me
no think so! eheheheh IMHO, up until his administration, the SHVARTZERS & the
CHOSEN ONES got along swell! eheheh What!? You thought I was going to befriend
a Mayor who succeeded legendary sweet Jew, Ed Koch!?!heheh DOH! eh One of the
great NY Mayors & political figures of the 20th century! While he may not have
had the same success as Rudy G in cleaning up NY's ("The State That Has
Everything" - was also the first capital of America from 1789-1790) act, Koch
sure made for one hell of a judge on the second coming of the "The People's
Court." ehe Remember, being New York's mayor is only second to President, in
terms of exposure. -D, NYC "In 1664, The Dutch lost control of their "New
Amsterdam" colony to England, which was then renamed as "New York" in honor of
Duke James of York"
Post by DarrinT68
This admission by Kenny is so frighteningly hilarious, I don't even have to
respond!ehe It writes itself!eh -D, NYC "The Egg Cream is psychologically
the>> opposite of circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness" -
MEL>> BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, sweet NYC Jew - ingenious comedic legend,
filmmaker,>> actor, producer, writer)
IanWriterEmail
2003-08-08 14:07:08 UTC
Permalink
Date: 8/7/2003
Leftists, Progressives, Communists will never learn that they are
philosophically bankrupt.
Hmmm...who are the great philosophers of the rightists, conservatives, and
reactionaries, then?

That notable standard-bearer of the American right, GW Bush, was asked during
the election campaign who his favorite political philosopher is. Those who
were hoping for a lucid discourse on the contemporary relevance of Plato,
Machiavelli, Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, Bentham, Mills, or Rawls, were sorely
disappointed. For the answer the gormless nitwit produced was -- I kid you
not -- "Jesus Christ."

Unfortunately nobody followed up with further questions; I suppose all present
were too thunderstruck by this display of moronic ignorance. A pity, because
Bush could have been tied in knots. After all, Jesus only contribution to
political philosophy was his injunction to render unto caesar the things that
are caesars, and unto god the things that are gods -- i.e., separation of
church and state, which Bush doesnt believe in. And Jesus principal policy
recommendation, repeated a couple of dozen times in the gospels, is to give ALL
you have to the poor -- hardly Bushs guiding principle. After all, he gave the
Clinton surplus to the rich as a tax cut.
Poor old big, greasy nosed darrin is one of those people that listened
to Mayor DINKUS
I suppose that statement reflects the current state of right wing philosophy?
Ocenturian35
2003-08-09 13:04:14 UTC
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Date: 08 Aug 2003 14:07:08 GMT
Date: 8/7/2003
Leftists, Progressives, Communists will never learn that they are
philosophically bankrupt.
Hmmm...who are the great philosophers of the rightists, conservatives, and
reactionaries, then?
Machiavelli, Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, Bentham, Mills, or Rawls
By contemporary standards I doubt any of those gentlemen were liberal. Perhaps
progressive but by no means liberal. You failed to add Cicero, Cato, Urbanus,
Senaca nor the brilliant Charles Valouis the 7.
I kid you
not -- "Jesus Christ."
After all, Jesus only contribution to
political philosophy was his injunction to render unto caesar the things that
are caesars
Some claim that Jesus was a zealot and was the political mind of those Jews
that were waging a guerrilla war against Rome.
Winding Highway
2003-08-09 15:37:35 UTC
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Date: 8/9/2003
It was released on theaters, Kenny. It was a success during months here.
Perhaps on USA this movie was censored and was not displayed?.
Kenny lives in the backwoods of Missouri; his local movie theater doubtless
does re-runs of Ben Hur and The Sound of Music. Bowling for Columbine has
been widely released in the US for many months. Its a good documentary,
despite some crude bias, but not the ultimate text on American society that
Josema-Jarri makes it out to be. I found it quite enlightening in its
commentary on the pervasive sense of fear in the US.
Kenny Thomas
2003-08-09 21:46:44 UTC
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Haha, actually, we have no movie theatre and I hardly ever watch TV so if
there was a TV ad for it in the theatres I prolly missed it.
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Post by Winding Highway
Date: 8/9/2003
It was released on theaters, Kenny. It was a success during months here.
Perhaps on USA this movie was censored and was not displayed?.
Kenny lives in the backwoods of Missouri; his local movie theater doubtless
does re-runs of Ben Hur and The Sound of Music. Bowling for Columbine has
been widely released in the US for many months. Its a good documentary,
despite some crude bias, but not the ultimate text on American society that
Josema-Jarri makes it out to be. I found it quite enlightening in its
commentary on the pervasive sense of fear in the US.
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